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koreth ( koreth@lemm.ee )  to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago

What is something people think is true "nowadays" that has actually been true for a long time?

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What is something people think is true "nowadays" that has actually been true for a long time?

koreth ( koreth@lemm.ee )  to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago
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  • essell ( essellburns@beehaw.org ) 
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    “Fake News”

    There’s been good and bad journalism for as long as there’s been journalists

    • magnetosphere  ( HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org ) 
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      Yup. Only the different names for it are relatively new. The term “Fake News” didn’t become popular until The Mango Mussolini was President.

    • rufus ( rufus@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      Mmmmmmh, true. But it has generally been regarded as something bad. And it is not any more.

      • essell ( essellburns@beehaw.org ) 
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        It’s been condemned regularly for the last few hundred years. This feels like there’s a need and desire for it along with a revulsion about it from others

    • _thisdot ( _thisdot@infosec.pub ) 
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      I feel that with the advent of social media and the freedom to read same news incident from multiple sources in a matter of minutes, the news sources are forced to pick a side. There’s more activism and less journalism.

      There used to be 1-2 activist newspapers, but now even the big ones have to choose sides

      • essell ( essellburns@beehaw.org ) 
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        For sure, at least in the past journalists would maintain a pretense of impartiality

        • AnarchoYeasty ( AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org ) Banned
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          No they didn’t. There’s a famous quote that in the early 20th century newspapers didn’t just report the news they made the news. Newspapers have always had “fake news” and they’ve always taken sides and had agendas

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            It got so bad we had a war because of fake news, so we passed some laws to not let it happen again, then Ronald Reagan got those laws removed, and we are back after it.

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      To me the term “Fake News” means “News that is true, but I don’t want you to think is true”.

      That seems to be how it is used by the guy who made the term popular.

      • essell ( essellburns@beehaw.org ) 
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        Let’s get Philosophical…

        All of reality is perception, a point of view.

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