• Tone-policing other vegans is time that could be better spent having conversations with carnists. If somebody has a better way of changing hearts and minds, there’s no better way to convince others than to demonstrate it.

    Look up Earthling Ed on YouTube. He’s very kind, rational, and patient. I think that vegans should try to be more like him, but it’s very difficult, and I’m pretty far from that myself. I understand why some vegans get upset, because it’s an emotional topic.

    • I’m sure it is frustrating to deal with people challenging your beliefs constantly. It’s easier for me to avoid grumpy vegans that is for you to avoid meat eaters who don’t want to understand you. I used to say stupid things until I learned more. But it was heard to find someone who was willing to inform without any attacking. Forcing change on people seldom works.

      I’ll check out Earthing Ed. I do sincerely want to learn more. I didn’t need to be convinced of the ethics, because we aren’t miles apart there. I just want yummy recipes. I followed r/eatcheapandvegan and got good things off there and want to do the same here. I don’t need people to kiss my butt or guilt me to win me over, just show me a tasty alternative.

      It can get emotional, but it doesn’t have to. I thank you for your response.