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- Stillhart ( @Stillhart@lemm.ee ) 70•5 months ago
I am Jack’s COMPLETE lack of surprise.
- Quexotic ( @Quexotic@beehaw.org ) English8•5 months ago
Right? I tried it out with a friend of mine that has an Apple device, I have Android, and we were joking about Apple shutting it down within a few days. Lo and behold it took only 3 days.
- Powderhorn ( @Powderhorn@beehaw.org ) 6•5 months ago
I think I need a macro for that.
- I_am_10_squirrels ( @I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org ) 36•5 months ago
This was predicted on the post about Beeper
- Chris Remington ( @remington@beehaw.org ) 12•5 months ago
I’m just curious as to what Beeper’s response will be.
- MostlyBlindGamer ( @MostlyBlindGamer@rblind.com ) English25•5 months ago
Something something monopoly, something something gatekeepers. They don’t need a war chest big enough to sue Apple, they just need to convince the EU to do it. I’m sure they saw this coming from the start.
- progandy ( @progandy@feddit.de ) 3•5 months ago
Apple will respond with something something RCS coming soon I guess.
- MostlyBlindGamer ( @MostlyBlindGamer@rblind.com ) English1•5 months ago
No doubt, but MagSafe turning into the Qi 2 standard is… interesting. It may or may not be part of a broader shift.
- sanzky ( @sanzky@beehaw.org ) 3•5 months ago
The status of Apple as gatekeeper in the messaging app ecosystem is not yet clear. Remember that iMessages is not really popular in Europe, and Europe wont name Apple as a gatekeeper because of imessage’s popularity in the U.S. The EU does seem to be inclined to define them as gatekeeper, but that is not yet final. and if Apple implements RCS that might get them out of the hook. see section 5.4 of this document https://ec.europa.eu/competition/digital_markets_act/cases/202344/DMA_100013_215.pdf
- MostlyBlindGamer ( @MostlyBlindGamer@rblind.com ) English1•3 months ago
You were absolutely right! It’s been a while, huh? WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger are gatekeepers and WhatsApp is supposed to open up based on the Signal Protocol. I guess we’re settling on that.
- jaschen ( @jaschen@lemmynsfw.com ) English25•5 months ago
Fucking apple and it’s greedy service.
- Quexotic ( @Quexotic@beehaw.org ) English7•5 months ago
At this point it’s not even just that, it’s actually very petty and childish.
- Michal ( @Michal@programming.dev ) 21•5 months ago
I’d like to see a game of cat and mouse until Apple fucks up and breaks their own imessage app
- onlinepersona ( @onlinepersona@programming.dev ) English20•5 months ago
If Bleeper were opensource, I imagine there’d be more contributors willing to reverse engineer iMessage.
- fixmycode ( @fixmycode@feddit.cl ) 5•5 months ago
https://github.com/mautrix/imessage https://github.com/beeper/barcelona these are the core processes used to connect to the iMessage service
- spikespaz ( @spikespaz@programming.dev ) 4•5 months ago
I thought it was. What a missed opportunity.
- delmain ( @delmain@beehaw.org ) 4•5 months ago
Then they’d have a harder time charging $2/month for it.
- §ɦṛɛɗɗịɛ ßịⱺ𝔩ⱺɠịᵴŧ ( @shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml ) English17•5 months ago
With the original Beeper app you made an Apple ID through Apples website to use for setting up iMessage. This does require folks having the email in order to use iMessage, so definetly worth setting up an alias. It still works, while Beeper Mini doesn’t apparently.
- Pons_Aelius ( @Pons_Aelius@kbin.social ) 17•5 months ago
It still works
Yes and allowing beeper to MaInTheMiddle your messages does not present any security issues at all.
- floridaman ( @floridaman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 10•5 months ago
Their Matrix bridge is open source, and (at least they claim) everything is E2E encrypted. I love Beeper, and as unstable of a service as it is, it’s still really great and I fully trust it with my messages. Waited 2 years for this service and I’m gonna use it lol.
- Vojtěch Fošnár ( @vfosnar@beehaw.org ) 11•5 months ago
It is end to bridge encrypted. I trust them too but I still prefer to self-host this stuff.
- noodlejetski ( @noodlejetski@lemm.ee ) 5•5 months ago
everything is E2E encrypted
not really. an E2E encrypted message is decrypted on their server, and then reencrypted before they sent it to the recipient.
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Beeper, the startup that reverse-engineered iMessage to bring blue bubble texts to Android users, is experiencing an outage, the company reported via a post on X on Friday.
Asked if possibly Apple found a way to cut off Beeper Mini’s ability to function, he replied, “Yes, all data indicates that.”
Migicovsky, who previously founded the smartwatch Pebble, has argued that Beeper Mini wasn’t just beneficial for Android users who wanted to finally join their iMessage friends’ group chats, but that it increased security for iPhone users, too.
In an interview ahead of Beeper Mini’s launch, the founder explained that green bubble texts were unencrypted.
Why force iPhone users back to sending unencrypted SMS when they chat with friends on Android?,” he asked.
Because the startup was no longer using a middleman — like a Mac server relaying messages, as other iMessage-to-Android apps employ — it would essentially appear to Apple’s servers that Beeper Mini’s messages were coming from a device that runs iMessage natively.
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- helenslunch ( @helenslunch@feddit.nl ) 11•5 months ago
Why force iPhone users back to sending unencrypted SMS when they chat with friends on Android?,” he asked.
If he legitimately doesn’t know the answer to that question, he’s exceptionally stupid.
“Money” is the answer.
- JakenVeina ( @JakenVeina@lemm.ee ) 18•5 months ago
He knows the answer. It’s a rhetorical question, meant to piss off iPhone users.
- helenslunch ( @helenslunch@feddit.nl ) 3•5 months ago
Apple sheep are not that smart. They’d probably attack him for trying to hack their security or something.