The Day Before was originally billed as an MMO, but post launch, developer Fntastic is seemingly removing tags from the game’s Steam page.
  •  Kericake🥕 (They(/It))   ( @RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social ) English
    53•7 months ago

    Isn’t that what sca- uhh, I mean super legit game devs normally do? Suddenly the scope was neeeever that big! You just think you remember all’ those claims that are still visible! No one actually said things you can prove they did!

    I feel like this has happened numerous times already and somehow it surprises people every time. Like, there are channels on YouTube that only cover this sort of thing and have days of content.

      •  Scary le Poo   ( @Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org ) 
        9•7 months ago

        No, you are saying that you are entitled to an developers code if they leave a project just because they let you test it. You are acting/being entitled as fuck.

        Engywuck ( @Engywuck@lemm.ee ) True… It amazes me when people become so entitled online, especially in the FOSS community. It looks like they think devs owe them something.

        jarfil ( @jarfil@beehaw.org ) They got free testing for the promise of releasing the source, then failed to fulfill that promise, so… yeah, they do owe those people something.

        Yeah, that’s not how any of this works.

        •  TheRtRevKaiser   ( @TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org ) M
          9•7 months ago

          @Scary_le_Poo and @jarfil: if the two of you have a disagreement on another thread, please work it out between the two of you like adults there; don’t spill it over into other, unrelated threads.

          @Scary_le_Poo, these types of personal attacks are not acceptable on beehaw. It is possible to disagree while still being kind and without resorting to angry or abusive language. Please try to remember beehaw’s guiding principal when interacting with others in the future.

        •  jarfil   ( @jarfil@beehaw.org ) 
          8•7 months ago

          You are saying that getting people to do work for you by promising them something in return, means nothing, that you can break that promise whenever you want.

          You are entitled as fuck.

          That’s what a scammer would say.

          •  Scary le Poo   ( @Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org ) 
            3•7 months ago

            No, I’m a foss dev, and I speak for all of us when I ask you to please not join any of our communities.

            Also I’m calling you out. You need to put up or shut up evidence of where that developer said that he would release his code as open source. And that he would do it in return for you testing it.

            •  jarfil   ( @jarfil@beehaw.org ) 
              2•7 months ago

              No, I’m a foss dev, and I speak for all of us when I ask you to please not join any of our communities

              Sure, I’ll write your name down in the black book. What’s your GitHub nick, or wherever you keep your stuff?

              You need to put up or shut up evidence of where that developer said that he would release his code as open source

              From the article:

              https://wedistribute.org/2023/12/artemis-shuts-down/

              She didn’t want to release the code to something prematurely

              Implying the code was supposed to get released. You may want to ask the article’s author about where they got that out.

                •  jarfil   ( @jarfil@beehaw.org ) 
                  1•7 months ago

                  The promise I’m referring to, is to “release the code”.

                  (long version)

                  I understand the thought process of people not wanting to show how messy their pre-production code is… but that’s why, following semver rules, you mark it as a version “0.x.y”. It’s not an exam, it’s nothing to be ashamed of, anyone who’s written code knows that’s how things work, and it’s on the community to be understanding of this, so the “initial dev” of an open source project should feel confident in releasing a tangled mess, no less no more.

                  Promising the code, then disappearing without giving a community that’s invested in the project a chance to take over, is what I find fishy.

        •  Norah - She/They   ( @princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English
          2•7 months ago

          So I just ran across this, after leaving a comment in that same thread. Posting it again here to try and add some sanity back to this discussion:

          Okay, but there’s a line here somewhere. Pushing for new features and complaining in the issue tracker that a bug hasn’t been fixed soon enough is absolutely entitlement. Expecting someone to follow through on their word and release the source code is another thing entirely. Especially if they make the decision to stop working on it.

          Go check out this EoL statement from the developer of Nomie. He open-sourced the code without even being asked too.

    •  verysoft   ( @verysoft@kbin.social ) 
      16•7 months ago

      Like CDPR changing Cyberpunk from RPG to Action-adventure. At least the game didn’t release at that point though, but still. I mean Destiny even gets called an MMO when it isn’t. Genre is kind of misused a lot, people just need to stop buying or getting invested in games that haven’t even released.