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skillissuer ( skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de )  to TechTakes@awful.systemsEnglish · 3 years ago

Polish Hackers Repaired Trains the Manufacturer Artificially Bricked. Now The Train Company Is Threatening Them

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Polish Hackers Repaired Trains the Manufacturer Artificially Bricked. Now The Train Company Is Threatening Them

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After breaking trains simply because an independent repair shop had worked on them, NEWAG is now demanding that trains fixed by hackers be removed from service.
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  • self ( self@awful.systems ) 
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    like fucking clockwork. “we didn’t program our trains to brick themselves when repaired by third parties, and also we’re going to sue these hackers for disabling that code we didn’t write” I’m really hoping this transparent shit gets laughed out of court if they try to sue (and that the corresponding countersuit is damaging as fuck to their inflated bottom line)

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      just to be clear: trains run on original, unmodified firmware, they just reverse engineered it and made a tool that allows for unlocking them just like it would be by manufacturer

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      the newag’s narrative is generally bull; and the folks from the dragon sector do have legal representation.

      also reverse engineering with the goal to make things interoperable is explicitly allowed by polish author’s law (we do follow the continental copyright conventions in poland, so it’s not entirely the same as what the common law countries understand as copyright)

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    What the fuck happened to owning something?

    Oh yeah… subscription based profits. Fuck that.

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    some extra statement from Dragon Sector and Newag response

    https://oko.press/kto-unieruchamia-pociagi-impuls-sledztwo-hakerow article in polish, wasn’t written yet first time around

    and update from z3s: https://zaufanatrzeciastrona.pl/post/jak-badacze-naprawili-zepsute-pociagi-newagu-i-inne-ciekawe-aspekty-tej-afery/ (also in polish)

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      i keep updating links to them original articles in a single place

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    Their answer: “Uuh, do you remember that movie starring Keanu Reeves and a train with control problems?”

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