Beehaw
  • Communities
  • Create Post
  • search
    Search
  • Login
  • Sign Up
Arthur Besse ( cypherpunks@lemmy.ml )  to Piracy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago

Sarah Silverman and other authors are suing OpenAI and Meta for copyright infringement, alleging that they're training their LLMs on books via Library Genesis and Z-Library

www.thedailybeast.com

external-link
message-square
9
link
fedilink
  • cross-posted to:
  • technology
  • chatgpt@lemdro.id
38
external-link

Sarah Silverman and other authors are suing OpenAI and Meta for copyright infringement, alleging that they're training their LLMs on books via Library Genesis and Z-Library

www.thedailybeast.com

Arthur Besse ( cypherpunks@lemmy.ml )  to Piracy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago
message-square
9
link
fedilink
  • cross-posted to:
  • technology
  • chatgpt@lemdro.id
Sarah Silverman Sues ChatGPT Creator for Copyright Infringement
www.thedailybeast.com
external-link
“If a user prompts ChatGPT to summarize a copyrighted book, it will do so,” the suit claims.
alert-triangle
You must log in or # to comment.
  • Cyborganism ( cyborganism@lemmy.ca ) 
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    3 years ago

    You know… Instead of having AI create art while humans bust their asses at work, why not make AI do the work and let humans create art?

    • auf ( auf@lemmy.ml ) 
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      3 years ago

      deleted by creator

    • SpaceToast ( SpaceToast@mander.xyz ) 
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      3 years ago

      Because then people wouldn’t pay out the ass for small conveniences. Keeping people working as much as possible is the point.

  • Hot Saucerman ( dingus@lemmy.ml ) Banned
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    3 years ago

    More detailed coverage from The Verge: https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/9/23788741/sarah-silverman-openai-meta-chatgpt-llama-copyright-infringement-chatbots-artificial-intelligence-ai

    The complaint lays out in steps why the plaintiffs believe the datasets have illicit origins — in a Meta paper detailing LLaMA, the company points to sources for its training datasets, one of which is called ThePile, which was assembled by a company called EleutherAI. ThePile, the complaint points out, was described in an EleutherAI paper as being put together from “a copy of the contents of the Bibliotik private tracker.” Bibliotik and the other “shadow libraries” listed, says the lawsuit, are “flagrantly illegal.”

    I used to have a Bibliotik account, and if this is true about ThePile, they very likely have at least the beginnings of a successful case.

  • stephen ( stephen@lemmy.ml ) 
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    3 years ago

    Who? Like no sarcasm, who is she?

    • Arthur Besse ( cypherpunks@lemmy.ml ) OP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      3 years ago

      She’s the actress who played Rain Robinson in the Star Trek: Voyager third season episodes “Future’s End” and “Future’s End, Part II”.

      (I guess she’s done some other stuff too, which you can read about in her wikipedia article…)

  • CaptainBasculin ( CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml ) 
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    3 years ago

    It’s not illegal for a human to learn from the contents of a book, so why the fuck it’s illegal for an AI?

    • Ace T'Ken ( AceTKen@lemmy.ca ) 
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 years ago

      Because the thing referred to as AI (which is definitely not AI) is simply strip mining the book to shit out “content.”

      It is not reading, understanding, or learning from the book. It is using it to sell services for its masters.

      An author should control their work. They should be able to decide for themselves whether or not they want to help big tech sell garbage to idiots.

  • Uriel-238 ( Uriel238@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    3 years ago

    I think this is going to raise some questions about fair use, since AI projects are absolutely a derivative works that are sufficiently removed from the content they used. (There may be some argument that it’s also educational use.)

    This case may rekindle questions about fair use given that our current copyright-maximalist clime has been less interested in enforcing fair use and more interested in enforcing copyright regardless of fair use.

  • AlexWIWA ( AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml ) 
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    3 years ago

    Good. Fuck openai

Piracy@lemmy.ml

piracy@lemmy.ml

Subscribe from Remote Instance

Create a post
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !piracy@lemmy.ml

Welcome to /c/piracy

No netflix or streaming services landlubbers allowed, this is pirates territory.

  • Official /r/piracy failover community
  • #pirateactivism Matrix chat
  • /r/piracy subreddit backup
Visibility: Public
globe

This community can be federated to other instances and be posted/commented in by their users.

  • 7 users / day
  • 32 users / week
  • 51 users / month
  • 345 users / 6 months
  • 949 local subscribers
  • 26.2K subscribers
  • 462 Posts
  • 2.2K Comments
  • Modlog
  • mods:
  • Dessalines ( dessalines@lemmy.ml ) 
  • Divided by Zer0 ( db0@lemmy.ml ) 
  • Divided by Zer0 ( db0@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 
  • db0 ( db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
  • BE: 0.19.15
  • Modlog
  • Legal
  • Instances
  • Docs
  • Code