Other right-wing accounts variously reacted by describing the move as Orwellian, lamenting the death of free speech and even contemplating leaving Canada for good.
Oh no. Not that. Please no.
<Tee hee!>
- Mossy Feathers (They/Them) ( @MossyFeathers@pawb.social ) 63•6 months ago
even contemplating leaving Canada for good.
Hello, yes, LGBT person stuck in Texas here. Can I have their house please? I don’t really like the cold, but if it means I don’t have to feel scared about coming out of the closet then I could deal with it.
- No_Eponym ( @No_Eponym@lemmy.ca ) 25•6 months ago
My comrad in crisis, no one in Canada can afford houses anymore. High chance they are just impoverished renters.
2/3 of Canadians own their own homes.
- CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@futurology.today ) English8•6 months ago
Hmm, that actually tracks with what I see in real life, but it’s pretty impressive. I guess that’s also why we have massive household debt.
We have massive household debt because we are livestock farmed for wealth by the plutocrats. They get us in debt early and keep us in debt our whole lives to that they can extract the maximum amount of interest from us until we die and our estates can be picked over for anything that’s left to pay our final debts.
- CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@futurology.today ) English1•6 months ago
You can look at it that way. They do advertise and play a lot of mind tricks. It’s also possible to be so poor you don’t even qualify to go into debt, though.
The plutocrats (as well as more moderately wealthy people) might argue that it’s always agreed to freely by the debtor, so it’s not their fault. I’d maintain free will doesn’t exist at a collective level, and they fucking know it. The entire concept of marketing is predicated on that.
- Omega_Haxors ( @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml ) 4•6 months ago
Still more empty homes than homeless.
Source?
- T (they/she) ( @Templa@beehaw.org ) 5•6 months ago
Not the quoted person but a quick research:
Apparently around 1.3 million homes were vacant in Canada (2021 data)
I couldn’t find anything more recent.
- T (they/she) ( @Templa@beehaw.org ) 4•6 months ago
“Murtaza Haider is a professor of Real Estate Management at Ryerson University. Stephen Moranis is a real estate industry veteran.”
oh yes very unbiased people right here
Edit: Seriously though, after reading the article this doesn’t bust any myth at all. The only “source” cited is the census map and they don’t even take their time to transform that data into something that’s proving their point. That’s just a piece of opinion, it isn’t proving anything.
- Omega_Haxors ( @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml ) 1•6 months ago
See I didn’t respond because I knew this is exactly what you were going to do. It’s always the same debate pervert internet sophistry.
Nobody ever asks for a source because they’re intellectually curious, it’s always just “this right wing source disagrees with your facts”
- pbjamm ( @pbjamm@beehaw.org ) English4•6 months ago
That isnt just Canada bud. The cost of housing in the US far out paces incomes. At least anywhere that people want to live or where there are jobs.
- Unaware7013 ( @Unaware7013@kbin.social ) 62•6 months ago
How can the government just overstep on Canadians’ first amendment rights? Don’t they know what the US founding fathers stood for? The right of Canadians to say whatever they want to whomever they want without fear of any consequences!!!1!
Yup. They live in the christofascist echo bunker which is dominated by US neo-fascist billionaires and have no idea what’s actually going on in the real world.
- FreeBooteR69 ( @FreeBooteR69@kbin.social ) 10•6 months ago
It’s hilarious most of them don’t know that this country has a charter of rights and freedoms, not the American constitution.
- Omega_Haxors ( @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml ) 7•6 months ago
They’re considering adding it to the curriculum because an embarrassing amount of Canadians think they’re under the American constitution.
- Grimpen ( @Grimpen@lemmy.ca ) 4•6 months ago
It is in the curriculum, but Cs get degrees I guess.
- Omega_Haxors ( @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml ) 5•6 months ago
I certainly don’t remember learning anything about the charter when I was in school 😬
- Grimpen ( @Grimpen@lemmy.ca ) 3•6 months ago
I think it was in Grade 10 Social Studies, BC, back in the eighties mind, so it was pretty fresh then and long in the past now. We didn’t exactly commit it to memory, just “this happened in 1982, here is the text” 10 question quiz or something, probably a question or two at the most on the final. Even when something is covered in school, and is on the final, the details will be hazy within a few years, although hopefully the general concepts will endure.
Of course, some of these people calling out groomers were probably in High School before the Constitution Act of 1982.
- Grimpen ( @Grimpen@lemmy.ca ) 8•6 months ago
The first amendment you say? They’re still salty about the formation of Manitoba out of the Northwest Territory?
- grte ( @grte@lemmy.ca ) 28•6 months ago
They used to have a much better grasp on this sort of thing. “Is so-and-so a groomer? I don’t know, but people have been saying. I’m just asking questions…” and so forth. Couching your bs accusations in uncertain language to protect you from the libel lawsuit you clearly deserve. I guess it’s good they seem to be forgetting about that tool more frequently.
We’ve reached the tipping point. Fascism is on the rise globally and they have broken cover and are running to try to grab the prize. They need to be stopped.
- grte ( @grte@lemmy.ca ) 4•6 months ago
100% agreed.
- ILikeBoobies ( @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 26•6 months ago
lamenting the death of free speech
Its amazing how ignorant they are to the fact it’s always* been like this
* since the Bill of Rights
- TheFriendlyArtificer ( @TheFriendlyArtificer@beehaw.org ) 4•6 months ago
Oh! So I can’t go into a post-op ward in a white lab coat and tell the recovering patients that the power of prayer is better than surgery?!
What’s next?! Taking away my Professional Engineer certification just because I’m not an engineer?
Or maybe you want to bankrupt my architecture firm simply because my certifications double as my Colgate Cavity Patrol diploma!
Never forget: If you can’t commit outright fraud with your free speech, is it really free?
/s
- ILikeBoobies ( @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 2•6 months ago
What’s next?! Taking away my Professional Engineer certification just because I’m not an engineer?
You don’t need /s because this is something they are pissed about
Bill of Rights?
Huh. That’s an old one. Thanks.
- S_204 ( @S_204@lemm.ee ) 2•6 months ago
LoL. Did you not know about this or something?
I actually didn’t know about the Canadian Bill of Rights. I’ve always focused on the Constitution and Charter since they are current and applicable nationally. I guess that since it was superseded I just didn’t know about it.
- blargerer ( @blargerer@kbin.social ) 21•6 months ago
Gotta love Canadians that think they are ruled by American laws. Every Canadian should know slander and libel laws here are much more restrictive on speech.
- mPony ( @mPony@kbin.social ) 9•6 months ago
about as inspiring as Canadians that WANT to be ruled by American laws.
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English7•6 months ago
This seems to be the whole point of the Conservative Party these days. Wannabe US Republicans.
- pbjamm ( @pbjamm@beehaw.org ) English3•6 months ago
They may be shitty but they have a long way to go to be GQP shitty.
- CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@futurology.today ) English1•6 months ago
Agreed. It’s creeping in but they’re still just the party of rich people who want less taxes in large part.
- DarkThoughts ( @DarkThoughts@kbin.social ) 6•6 months ago
Defamation isn’t protected under US laws either. It might not be super well enforced, especially on the internet, but that’s also not really exclusive to the US. A lot of countries are just now really getting into the legalities of what happens on the internet, for better or worse in certain cases. But generally speaking, laws also apply to what you say online of course.
- blargerer ( @blargerer@kbin.social ) 5•6 months ago
There is a fundamental difference in the way defamation is treated in Canada(and other Common law countries like the UK and Australia) and the US. This is a simplification, but basically in the US you generally need to prove that the statement was knowingly false (in addition to other defamation requirements like proving damages). This is nearly impossible to do in most situations. In Common law the person who said the statement needs to prove they had a reasonable justification for thinking the statement true. This reverses who the onus of proof is on and makes winning defamation cases in Canada actually plausible.
Not to mention gun rights in Canada…of which there are none.
- theodewere ( @theodewere@kbin.social ) 9•6 months ago
they should all move to Russia, where they will be much more free to say what they like about groomers
- psvrh ( @psvrh@lemmy.ca ) 18•6 months ago
It’s likely many of them already are operating out of St. Petersburg.
- Omega_Haxors ( @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml ) 5•6 months ago
They can go back to America where they’ll be left destitute and homeless by their many fascist institutions (all of which they supported)
- Reddit_Is_Trash ( @Reddit_Is_Trash@reddthat.com ) 1•6 months ago
Anyone upset at being called a groomer is likely guilty of it
Those throwing around the word are almost certainly projecting. Every accusation is an admission.
- WldFyre ( @WldFyre@lemm.ee ) 3•6 months ago
I like this reasoning!
That’s why every man upset at being called a rapist is likely a rapist!