- Jeena ( @jeena@jemmy.jeena.net ) 51•9 months ago
While jumping and running on scene you want something sturdy not a whimpy 3.5mm jack.
- davel [he/him] ( @davel@lemmy.ml ) English12•9 months ago
Some folks don’t work shows and it shows 😜
- Jajcus ( @Jajcus@kbin.social ) 39•9 months ago
Because 3.5mm jacks suck. 6.3mm jacks are much more sturdy and can be easily mounted on 6mm or even thicker cable, which can also handle much more use.
Flimsy jack and thin cheap cable cable is asking for trouble during performance.
The only plus of 3.5mm and smaller ‘phone jacks’ is their size and in many applications it is much less important than reliability.
- juliebean ( @juliebean@lemm.ee ) 9•9 months ago
why aren’t phones and shit made with 1/4" jacks instead of 3.5mm jacks?
- ColeSloth ( @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ) 10•9 months ago
Ftfy: why aren’t phones made with jacks?
- juliebean ( @juliebean@lemm.ee ) 4•9 months ago
honestly, i had completely forgotten that some phones, for some completely unfathomable reason, lack an audio jack of any kind. if you are suffering through that, you have my condolences.
- nudny ekscentryk ( @nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ) English3•9 months ago
they are if you look outside apple
- MrFunnyMoustache ( @MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml ) 10•9 months ago
Most android phones don’t have these… The only brands I have seen that still make phones with headphone jacks are Asus and Sony…
- nudny ekscentryk ( @nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ) English6•9 months ago
Wrong. According to GSMArena data 286 Android phone models with 3.5mm jack were released only this year out of 454 total, therefore almost 2/3 of Android devices still come with headphone jack.
- MrFunnyMoustache ( @MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml ) 6•9 months ago
I looked at the list… It seems that almost all of them are mid/low budget phones, while high end phones rarely come with a jack. As much as it pains me to say it, it makes sense, since people who buy expensive phones probably can afford a wireless set while people who buy budget phones are less likely to buy wireless headphones.
- nudny ekscentryk ( @nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ) English1•9 months ago
And you’d wrong again, because all mayor manufacturers offer affordable wireless headphones as well. You can get a decent pair for as low as $20 and great wireless headphones with active noise cancelling for $50.
- MrFunnyMoustache ( @MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml ) 4•9 months ago
Most wireless earbuds will become useless bricks since they are designed to be really hard to repair and batteries degrade with charge cycles. So while you can get an earbud on a budget, they will need to be replaced much more frequently than a wired pair of earbuds at the same price.
- ColeSloth ( @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ) 1•9 months ago
9/10ths of the 2/3 of the phones that have jacks are low tier cheapo phones. Only a few of the higher end specd android phones have audio jacks. The boost mobile phone you get from Walmart for $49 has the audio jack.
- manucode ( @manucode@infosec.pub ) 2•9 months ago
If the only tool you have is a jack, every problem looks like a pallet.
Phones ≠ pallets
Because good luck finding a phone nowadays that’s at a bit thicker than 1/4". (It’s a shame really; I kinda miss those older, thicker phones…)
- bstix ( @bstix@feddit.dk ) English9•9 months ago
Would be better with XLR, but anyway, the jack is the standard that was used in the very first electric guitars.
I’m not sure why they chose that one at the time, but it was the same kind of connection used in telephone boards, so it was already a standard for audio long before the invention of electric guitars. The jack was invited in 1877. Makes sense to use something that already existed and had proven to be reliable and available.
The reason they’re still used is for backward compatibility. Other cabled instruments and microphones have changed standards through the years, but because guitars need to be paired with all kinds of amplifiers and stomp boxes from various manufacturers from different decades, it’s impossible for one brand to change the standard.
A curious fact is that the 1/4 jack is the longest running connection standard.
With many professionals using wireless cables these days, it could more easily be changed, but at the same time, since going without a cable also removes many of the issues with the jack, there’s really no need to change it.
why xlr?
- bstix ( @bstix@feddit.dk ) English4•9 months ago
It locks, is more durable and balanced.
balanced?
- bstix ( @bstix@feddit.dk ) English2•9 months ago
It reduces noise from interference.
An unbalanced cable has two wires. A ground and the signal. The audio is the difference between the two. A guitar cable is unbalanced.
A balanced cable has 3 wires. A ground, a signal (+ hot) and a signal with opposite polarity (- cold). The receiver will flip the polarity of the cold signal and add the two signals. The result is that any interference that happens in the cable is also flipped on the cold signal and thereby cancels the interference on the hot signal.
Put in like math: let’s say your audio is 3x and noise is 0.5y An unbalanced cable would deliver 3x + 0.5y =noise being added to the output.
A balanced cable would deliver “hot” 3x + 0.5y and “cold” -3x +0.5y. The receiver flips the cold resulting in 3x+0.5y +3x -0.5y =6x + 0y. This can then be divided by 2 resulting in the correct 3x and no noise.
the guitar input is unbalanced?
- bstix ( @bstix@feddit.dk ) English1•9 months ago
Yeah, a guitar output is a mono unbalanced two wire 1/4" TS jack.
Of course there are people who make guitars with custom wiring, but the standard is TS. 2 wires: tip and sleeve.
You can use a stereo/balanced TRS jack with 3 wires,? (Tip, Ring Sleeve) but only because those are sort of compatible with TS. It won’t actually be balanced.
so whyd you start off with saying it’s balanced if it’s unvalanced andbwhy dont guitars come balacned
- I_am_10_squirrels ( @I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org ) 1•9 months ago
I wonder if it would be possible to use some jacks and a couple of cables to run Ethernet.
- bstix ( @bstix@feddit.dk ) English2•9 months ago
I guess so. The phoneline in my house only has two wires (middle pair of a rj11) so it could work just as well on a guitar cable. It runs at 20/2 mb, which is about maximum for this sort of line. Works alright for TV streaming and office work, but it’s too slow for keeping up with the daily gigabytes of game updates.