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- borlax ( @borlax@lemmy.borlax.com ) 34•1 year ago
my favorite part is that humans have created an orbiting pile of garbage.
- MagicShel ( @MagicShel@programming.dev ) 24•1 year ago
Yeah, but it’s pretty cool that the orbiting pile of garbage can dodge space debris…
- towerful ( @towerful@beehaw.org ) 19•1 year ago
Ah, the new Lemmy switcharoo!
- Sharkwellington ( @Sharkwellington@lemmy.one ) 9•1 year ago
Hold my garbage, I’m going in!
- borlax ( @borlax@lemmy.borlax.com ) 5•1 year ago
A lot of the debris is man made that we put up there is my point.
- MagicShel ( @MagicShel@programming.dev ) 6•1 year ago
Now there’s a bunch more of it was my joke.
- Chahk ( @chahk@beehaw.org ) 7•1 year ago
The only solution? Put more of it up there, of course!
- Sharkwellington ( @Sharkwellington@lemmy.one ) 8•1 year ago
Does space debris have any known natural predators?
Yes, other space debris.
- jcarax ( @jcarax@beehaw.org ) 3•1 year ago
And gravity.
- alcyoneous ( @alcyoneous@beehaw.org ) English8•1 year ago
Not content with trashing the surface of Earth, now we have to trash the space around us too!
- RealAccountNameHere ( @RealAccountNameHere@beehaw.org ) English6•1 year ago
Have we created orbiting poles of garbage, or are WE in fact orbiting piles of garbage?
- Cipher ( @Cipher@beehaw.org ) English4•1 year ago
The answer to your question is yes
- diskmaster23 ( @diskmaster23@lemmy.one ) 15•1 year ago
Maybe we should clean up space?
- Evil_incarnate ( @Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee ) 10•1 year ago
For the most part, they all are falling towards earth and will burn up. No need to do anything.
- diskmaster23 ( @diskmaster23@lemmy.one ) 8•1 year ago
Great. Another $900 million wasted. We could have laid a lot of fiber with that money.
- The Doctor ( @drwho@beehaw.org ) 9•1 year ago
Nah, there would have been another stock buyback and the existing “shitty DSL meets all of the FCC requirements for broadband Internet access” would have closed out another hearing.
- diskmaster23 ( @diskmaster23@lemmy.one ) 6•1 year ago
I detect no lies.
- boonhet ( @boonhet@lemm.ee ) 4•1 year ago
Running fiber globaly is very expensive. The satellite solution has its cons, but it’s available to a lot of people who otherwise might not have access.
It is expensive, but in SOME rural areas it’s still affordable. Obviously not in poorer ones, but it might get cheaper over time. Or it might not. Who knows.
- diskmaster23 ( @diskmaster23@lemmy.one ) 3•1 year ago
I recall that the decaying orbit means that they constantly have to put more satellites up. All that energy, all that propellant, and all that space garbage. Billions of dollars wasted. Better spent on fiber. Once installed, baring cuts, it will last for nearly 100 years or more. It has benefits for some, but, IMHO, resources are better spent on fiber.
- boonhet ( @boonhet@lemm.ee ) 3•1 year ago
Universal global fiber is sadly unlikely to happen. I wish it wasn’t so, but the fight for me to get fiber in a town has been a decade.
- diskmaster23 ( @diskmaster23@lemmy.one ) 4•1 year ago
I spent five years and gave up on it because Republicans.
- boonhet ( @boonhet@lemm.ee ) 4•1 year ago
Different country here, I’m getting it in autumn.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) 3•1 year ago
Kessler syndrome is one hell of a lot more expensive than fiber.
- CmdrShepard ( @CmdrShepard@lemmy.one ) 8•1 year ago
These are in LEO. Once they lose propulsion after 3-5 years, they fall and burn up on re-entry. It isn’t possible for these satellites to cause Kessler Syndrome.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) 3•1 year ago
Could a high-speed impact not send debris flying into a higher orbit?
- mike901 ( @mike901@beehaw.org ) 7•1 year ago
It could send debris into a more elliptical orbit, but it wouldn’t be possible for it to raise the entire orbit above LEO. The point of impact will remain in the orbital path and since the entire orbit is currently in LEO, there will be, by extension, some part of the new orbit still in LEO and therefore subject any debris to atmospheric capture.
- boonhet ( @boonhet@lemm.ee ) 1•1 year ago
I guess we can choose between people in remote areas having no internet access and Kessler syndrome :/
The third way costs not 900 million, but hundreds of billions, maybe trillions. Rich countries can afford it, but many can not.
- CmdrShepard ( @CmdrShepard@lemmy.one ) 2•1 year ago
Wasted how? Because some satellites moved to dodge debris?
- jarfil ( @jarfil@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year ago
Fiber is too slow when you want to charge billions for letting High Frequency Trading bots running arbitration across different markets to get a few miliseconds advantage over those running through fiber.
Having a mesh of satellites running on “laser through vacuum” to go around the globe, can get you those billions. Which, let’s be clear, is the real business goal of Starlink.
- targetx ( @targetx@programming.dev ) 6•1 year ago
Perhap we should focus on cleaning up earth first :-)
Will need one very powerful vacuum to do that.
- Morphit ( @Morphit@feddit.uk ) 4•1 year ago
Make sure it doesn’t go from suck to blow!
- The Doctor ( @drwho@beehaw.org ) 4•1 year ago
After being warned repeatedly since 2014. Whee.
- Oliver Lowe ( @otl@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•1 year ago
Is it just Starlink satellites going through this?