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2024 might be the breakout year for efficient ARM chips in desktop and laptop PCs.
- OmnipotentEntity ( @OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org ) 32•4 months ago
I would love to see it. But I’m far more excited for RISC-V desktops, truth be told.
RISC-V is also really exciting, yeah. I’m curious if it will have to go through the same slow progression in form factors that we saw with ARM (first embedded, then phones, then tablets, etc.) or if we’ll get high-performance RISC hardware more quickly.
- CaptObvious ( @CaptObvious@literature.cafe ) 3•4 months ago
Hasn’t RISC been around since at least the 90s? How much more time do they really need if it’s ever going to be ready for desktops?
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English21•4 months ago
RISC-V dates from 2011. RISC processors have been around since the 1980s, and ARM processors (in all our mobile devices) are RISC processors. Apple Silicon (M1, M2, M3) is ARM-based so RISC is also in Macs, which proves it’s feasible in high-performing laptop and desktop computers. But the particular appeal of RISC-V is its open licensing.
- CaptObvious ( @CaptObvious@literature.cafe ) 7•4 months ago
Ah, thanks. Obviously I didn’t keep up with developments as well as I thought. I knew that Apple Silicon is Arm-based, but I didn’t realize that Arm is RISC.
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English11•4 months ago
Yeah, ARM originally stood for Advanced RISC Machines. And the company grew out of Acorn Computers, a British company that made some excellent, innovative computers in the 1980s and 90s, including the BBC Microcomputer (not RISC) and the original RISC machine, the Acorn Archimedes. (The BBC Micro was central to computer education in the UK and the Raspberry Pi is an attempt to get back to the spirit of that project. The Raspberry Pi also uses a RISC CPU.)
- sabreW4K3 ( @sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf ) English3•4 months ago
There’s an interesting article about the thoughts of one of the Raspberry Pi founders on RISC-V here https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/what-eben-upton-said-about-risc-v
I’m guessing we won’t see a RISC-V version any time soon.
- sabreW4K3 ( @sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf ) English2•4 months ago
That’s years away though right? Even if we get some this year, they’ll be very immature. When you look at Arm based stuff, especially the Pi 5 and similar, it goes without saying that their time is now.
- OmnipotentEntity ( @OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org ) 1•4 months ago
Yeah, you’re not wrong. I’m not saying it’s soon, there’s clearly a lot of work to be done in the space still, I’m just excited for unencumbered processor designs.
- anlumo ( @anlumo@feddit.de ) 1•4 months ago
RISC-V is exciting for chip manufacturers, not sure why end users should be. I personally don’t care whether the CPU in my system required the producer to pay a license fee.
- HeartyBeast ( @HeartyBeast@kbin.social ) 6•4 months ago
That was 2021
- maynarkh ( @maynarkh@feddit.nl ) 1•4 months ago
I think what the article is going for is that this year we might get to where companies actually sell ARM-based processors so that other companies can use them in their devices instead of one company making it exclusively for their own devices. You know, mass market adoption.
The title is stupid and reeks of SEO where you must include the world AI no matter what though.