Shocked Pikachu face meme.
- Jo Miran ( @JoMiran@lemmy.ml ) English253•8 months ago
…tantrum…
What a fart gobbler.
- Empricorn ( @Empricorn@feddit.nl ) English208•8 months ago
I didn’t have a “tantrum” when they blocked my 3rd-party app for corporate reasons… I just stopped using Reddit.
- fatalError ( @fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org ) English11•8 months ago
Me too, I did most of my redditing on the phone. So the only redditing I do these days is when on desktop looking for various hardware recommendations, cause unfortunately I don’t know how to search lemmy that well
- BolexForSoup ( @BolexForSoup@kbin.social ) 105•8 months ago
“Sure, 90% of the sub voted for this and the reasons for shutting down are clearly laid out, but y’all are doing this for literally no reason. Stop throwing a tantrum and give me my memes NOW.”
They won I guess, enjoy.
- BolexForSoup ( @BolexForSoup@kbin.social ) 36•8 months ago
I think what really bothered me about that whole affair, and why I had my single worst outburst on Discord by a large margin as well that I still feel bad about, was because it was so frustrating seeing so many people who didn’t just disagree with us - I can handle disagreement, I can handle discussion and debate, I can even handle a little heat throughout that process. But people would just storm onto the Discord or the sub absolutely fuming and accusing us of all these things…but within two sentences, you can tell they hadn’t read a single post about the issue! Not one sentence or article!
They were asking the most basic questions, my favorite being “what is this even about? It’s not like you have a reason.” It was insulting really. Here we were spending all this time and effort worrying about the community, Reddit, how to do this in the most fair way possible and produce what we believe to be the best outcome (or at least the outcome the community wanted in the end), and these people couldn’t even read three sentences before screaming at us and calling us names.
People just were not having it, they did not want to even talk about it. And this was just a sub for discussing video games.
- pbjamm ( @pbjamm@beehaw.org ) English16•8 months ago
people would just storm onto the Discord or the sub absolutely fuming and accusing us of all these things…but within two sentences, you can tell they hadn’t read a single post about the issue! Not one sentence or article
This reminds me of when I used to take the time to discuss/argue climate science online. I kind of quit after too many instances with aggressive people who had not bothered to educate themselves on even the most basic science.
- loobkoob ( @loobkoob@kbin.social ) 10•8 months ago
- Toribor ( @Toribor@corndog.social ) English75•8 months ago
Exactly. It’s like hey… If the corpos take a dump in your mouth you can either leave or you can stick around and complain about the taste. And yet the people who left are the whiners?
- dillekant ( @dillekant@slrpnk.net ) English46•8 months ago
…disappeared…
I wonder where they went…
- Seasoned_Greetings ( @Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee ) English41•8 months ago
People on reddit genuinely don’t know because the L word gets the ban hammer there
- Deceptichum ( @Deceptichum@kbin.social ) 6•8 months ago
I loved that show though.
- RuBisCO ( @Rubisco@slrpnk.net ) English1•8 months ago
Looking very Shane today.
- theblueredditrefugee ( @theblueredditrefugee@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English18•8 months ago
Hey, don’t insult fart gobblers
- neo ( @neo@feddit.de ) English2•8 months ago
Who cares
- Facebones ( @Facebones@reddthat.com ) English185•8 months ago
Surely, attacking the mods of a community and calling them whiny babies will get you what you want, right?!
They are my mods, they should do as I command
- don ( @don@lemm.ee ) English66•8 months ago
I’m a motherfuckin user. I log onto this website sometimes. That means I dictate when you shit and for how long. Just be glad your breathing is out of my control. For now.
- Gork ( @Gork@lemm.ee ) English19•8 months ago
Aha but your breathing is now under my control now.
You are now aware of your breathing.
- Sonotsugipaa ( @Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English5•8 months ago
Doesn’t that increase the degree of control I have over my lungs, if anything?
- BolexForSoup ( @BolexForSoup@kbin.social ) 10•8 months ago
It’s all fun and games until a disgruntled banned user tries to doxx you 🫠
- Facebones ( @Facebones@reddthat.com ) English43•8 months ago
People have gotten fucking insane with this “Everybody should do exactly what I think they should do at all times full stop and if they don’t they’re literal fucking garbage, and if you disagree or care about a different thing than me you’re just a whiny baby whining about baby stuff” mentality.
I’m a lefty, and it’s an election year which means I get to deal with this for 10 months straight from the dems.
- nevernevermore ( @nevernevermore@kbin.social ) 16•8 months ago
you’re just a whiny baby whining about baby stuff
Title of my sextape
- AFallingAnvil ( @AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca ) English12•8 months ago
This man right here officer 📸🤔
- BolexForSoup ( @BolexForSoup@kbin.social ) 15•8 months ago
adjusts monocle
That’s no way to speak to us landed gentry, you filthy casual.
- abbadon420 ( @abbadon420@lemm.ee ) English2•8 months ago
They are my mods. I may insult them as i please. If others do so, they die!
- Yewb ( @Yewb@kbin.social ) 49•8 months ago
Landed gentry!
When I read that I never went back.
I never fully understand that, is that an insult? English ain’t my first language and I was honestly not sure if I felt offended by that lol, I swear I looked for it on the web, but it wasn’t clear for me either.
- loobkoob ( @loobkoob@kbin.social ) 62•8 months ago
“Landed gentry” was a social class of people who owned estates and, well, land. They didn’t have to work; they made their income by profiting off the work of the farm hands, merchants, etc, who worked on their land. The estates these landed gentry owned, along with their wealth, would be passed down to their children when they died. It meant the gentry did very little to earn their station in life, but still had a fair amount of power and wealth.
How spez thinks it applies to Reddit mods, I’m not entirely sure. But he definitely meant it as an insult. His full quote was:
And I think, on Reddit, the analogy is closer to the landed gentry: The people who get there first get to stay there and pass it down to their descendants, and that is not democratic.
So I guess he was upset that mod teams get to select who else is a good fit to join the mod team? Of course, the issue is that he is the landed gentry - users didn’t vote for him, nor can they remove him; and he’s profiting off the work of the people who post content and the people who spend their time moderating.
- Corgana ( @Corgana@startrek.website ) English13•8 months ago
He has to just be riling up the “freeze peach” crowd with that line. He must know that a “users vote” way of selecting mods is always going to be a race to the bottom in terms of diversity and quality as nobody with a unique vision is going to subject themselves to the will of a bunch of reddit-brained people.
When I was part of the Vaxxhappened protest I came to the realization that pretty much all mods of big communities are not “power happy” autocrats, but on the whole surprisingly weak-willed and living in a perpetual fear of getting removed. It was sad, but I have to imagine Reddit Inc is very happy with the arrangement. These people are working 24/7 for free, on one of the many indistinguishable feeds of memes. I was very surprised the API protest happened to the degree it did at all.
- Paradachshund ( @Paradachshund@lemmy.today ) English10•8 months ago
To give you some background on the term, it refers to rich land owners in England who had a lot of inherited wealth through the estates they owned (landed, meaning they own land). These “gentry” generally led lives of leisure and wealth, but they didn’t actually do anything, they just inherited it all through their family wealth and land ownership.
I’m sure I have details of that a little off, but that’s my best explanation of it.
- sqgl ( @sqgl@beehaw.org ) English3•8 months ago
“…until morale improves”
- db0 ( @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English181•8 months ago
Love how they bellyache about the mods not doing a good enough job when they spent the final weeks of the June protest harassing the existing mods and and basically dismissing and disrespecting all the work we were doing for the past decade. They just expected things to go back to business as usual and the mods should just shut up and continue doing unpaid janitorial duties for the benefit of spez out of sheer momentum I guess? The scale of their entitlement is unreal.
- KairuByte ( @KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English81•8 months ago
Yeah, that was part of the reason I decided to leave. I mean, it wasn’t the only reason by far, but just another item to snowball into the “fuck this platform” that pushed me to leave.
The number of people that actively told me I was dumb, abusing power, and my moderating could be done by anyone was crazy.
Then they bitched about the moderation quality going down when 50% of the moderation actions walked out the door.
- retro ( @retro@infosec.pub ) English49•8 months ago
The r/piracy wiki died when I stopped updating it which is a shame, I used to recommend it to everyone. Now I pass them onto FMHY or awesome.
- db0 ( @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English70•8 months ago
We do have our own piracy wiki here BTW!
- squidspinachfootball ( @squidspinachfootball@lemm.ee ) English10•8 months ago
Never heard of FMHY or awesome before, what are they? Could you point me there too? Thanks!
- retro ( @retro@infosec.pub ) English19•8 months ago
FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH https://fmhy.pages.dev/
Shakil-Shahadat’s awesome-piracy fork https://shakil-shahadat.github.io/awesome-piracy/
- squidspinachfootball ( @squidspinachfootball@lemm.ee ) English1•8 months ago
These are the most comprehensive lists of resources I’ve ever seen, thank you!
- Johanno ( @Johanno@feddit.de ) English40•8 months ago
How could you?! As a Karen I demand the r/piracy manager and that he forces you to go back and work for free!
- KairuByte ( @KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English52•8 months ago
Oh, I wasn’t a mod of r/piracy, I modded r/noahgettheboat.
But yeah, the users feeling entitled to both have a sub that was taken care of, and to shit on the mods, was quite perplexing.
- BurningRiver ( @BurningRiver@beehaw.org ) English16•8 months ago
the users feeling entitled to both have a sub that was taken care of, and to shit on the mods, was quite perplexing.
New Reddit, in a nutshell. I really liked that sub back when things were good.
- sqgl ( @sqgl@beehaw.org ) English4•8 months ago
I got banned this week from r/aboringdystopia for “spreading misinformation” by sharing a france24 link (credible established newspaper) debunking thegrayzone (whatever that is).
Here is the url I was trying to share.
- figjam ( @figjam@midwest.social ) English28•8 months ago
“Clean it up janny!” Good on you for getting out
- Corgana ( @Corgana@startrek.website ) English35•8 months ago
I always laughed when someone called us a “janitor” after we banned them. Like you understand in this analogy you are the trash being taken out, right?
- lukini ( @lukini@beehaw.org ) English6•8 months ago
It’s probably just because janitor is the term for a low level mod on 4chan.
- LoamImprovement ( @LoamImprovement@beehaw.org ) English9•8 months ago
“They do it for free!”
Not anymore, fucko. Have fun selling your ungovernable site.
- Annoyed_🦀 ( @Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc ) English144•8 months ago
“If you don’t like spez decision, then just open up the sub and leave!”
Mods left
“Where is all the mods?”
“They’re just butthurt they didn’t get any support hue hue hue”
Internet is a funni place.
- BolexForSoup ( @BolexForSoup@kbin.social ) 46•8 months ago
I’ll be honest here: it was pretty fun to respond to people going “well if you hate it here so much, then just leave!“ with “I did, check the sidebar.” I stuck around for a few days after to help the mods with a few unruly threads, banned a few problem users on a different sub I was just sick of, then left forever.
- Honytawk ( @Honytawk@lemmy.zip ) English92•8 months ago
Don’t they understand the mods leaving is a consequence of that “tantrum”?
- Fapp ( @Fapp@lemmynsfw.com ) English11•8 months ago
Asking anyone who didn’t leave reddit to “understand” anything is an exercise in futility. Their brain lack the wrinkles, because they only eat eucalyptus leaves.
- Draconic NEO ( @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English10•8 months ago
Probably not, I doubt they even understand what the fuss was even about and are now wondering why quality has gone down so much and why subs are becoming full of spam and reposes.
- Excrubulent ( @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ) English74•8 months ago
Seems like the way for reddit to “solve” this is to just close bad subs.
But that’s easily exploited, if people migrate to other subs and start protesting the sub closures, those subs get worse and they need to be closed…
Oh no, reddit, did you just discover that you relied on your users to make your site good and by screwing them over you’ve made your entire business unsustainable at scale?
Also, somewhat related, is there a short snappy name for lemmy communities? Some people call them subs out of habit but I don’t wanna do that, and “communities” is four whole syllables, and ain’t nobody got time for that.
- survivalmachine ( @survivalmachine@beehaw.org ) English43•8 months ago
“solve”
to make your site good
unsustainable
I think you’re misunderstanding reddit’s goal. Over the past year, they have been in IPO mode. They don’t care about making the site good or attracting a healthy community. They want to cash out and are burning down any structures that are providing any resistance to that.
- DebatableRaccoon ( @DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ) English18•8 months ago
Hopefully it costs them dearly. Kinda like the whole Tumblr censorship fiasco and drastic fall in value but before they sell it. Put #FuckSpez in the poor house
- fuwa ( @fuwa@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English6•8 months ago
Why do you care how it turns out financially for reddit? The outcome I’d wish for is that more people come to lemmy
- DebatableRaccoon ( @DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ) English15•8 months ago
Because I was generally enjoying Reddit before being forced out by the API crap. I’m a creature of habit so tend to dislike change and as much as I’m generally liking Lemmy, I’m having to force myself to not check the app every time I get bored because I’ll just see the same posts 20 times in a day thanks to the relatively low level of interaction on the platform currently. Whenever I go looking for tech support online, it’s nearly always a reddit post from 2-8 years ago that has the answer but I don’t want to spend any amount of time on the site, particularly if I’m on my phone at the time since it means doing that annoying step of having to manually change “www” to “old” to make the site functional and readable. I guess I’m just feeling vengeful at yet another good (or some approximation of) thing ruined by yet another money-grubbing, power-hungry, self-important tosser.
Though I see what you’re saying… ish. I think at this point, we aren’t going to see a massive influx of users without the death of competing platforms like Reddit since there are enough people either happy to keep taking the punches or think sunshine shines out of Spez’s asshole. Frankly, we can do without the second kind of person but the first won’t do anything without a certain amount of persuasion and I reckon the sinking of the ol’ Reddit ship would be just enough of a toe-capped-boot up the nether regions to persuade.
Edit: grammar whoopsies
- Excrubulent ( @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ) English13•8 months ago
You’re right, they aren’t trying to make something sustainable. I guess I was giving them too much credit when I said that.
The problem they’re facing here is that if they can’t sustain even the appearance of a functioning site that investors might want to buy, then they fail at that too.
So maybe the best way to fix this is just to ride it out and not close the subs, but if they’re just full of users that have finally clocked why mods are needed and that the place sucks now, that’s also a bad look.
If the search engines start to realise that it’s a cesspit with nothing worth linking to anymore, then that really hits their metrics. I’ve just realised I really need to get onto downloading my posts and deleting them.
- BurningRiver ( @BurningRiver@beehaw.org ) English5•8 months ago
Maybe daddy Elon can pay another $50b to buy Reddit and run that into the ground too.
- FaceDeer ( @FaceDeer@kbin.social ) 32•8 months ago
Kbin calls them “magazines”, which has the advantage of being only three syllables but has the disadvantage of being a dumb name for them.
- Excrubulent ( @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ) English12•8 months ago
Yeah, I don’t see anyone adopting “mags” or “zines” either.
- DebatableRaccoon ( @DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ) English15•8 months ago
I’d adopt “zines” expressly to overuse it, make people cringe and demonstrate just how dumb it sounds. “mags” just makes me think of guns
- Pat_Riot ( @Pat_Riot@lemmy.today ) English3•8 months ago
Got dem Klips…
- Lath ( @Lath@kbin.social ) 24•8 months ago
Commies.
- Excrubulent ( @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ) English8•8 months ago
I can’t decide if I hate that or love it.
- Sonotsugipaa ( @Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English7•8 months ago
Given the automotive slang term for “transmission”, I think this one has a chance
- db0 ( @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English12•8 months ago
Coms?
- Obi ( @Obi@sopuli.xyz ) English9•8 months ago
I’ve seen “Lemmies”, I’ve also seen “sublemmies” which brings “subs” back on the table imo. Alternatives are /c/s, commus, com’s, etc.
- Excrubulent ( @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ) English10•8 months ago
I guess “subs” isn’t exactly a reddit specific term. I don’t even know if it started there tbh.
I’ve just realised there’s nothing wrong with taking some of the language they used, we are after all following the basic link aggregator format.
- petrescatraian ( @petrescatraian@libranet.de ) 3•8 months ago
@Obi /c/s is not long (albeit a bit complicated to write, on phone at least) and it could easily be expanded verbally, so you know that
/c/s = communities
.On Friendica, everything that is not a person or a page is displayed as a group. As a Facebook alternative, it does make sense, but for you in the Lemmy world I imagine it would sound a bit bland. 😁
- Machinist3359 ( @Machinist3359@kbin.social ) 9•8 months ago
I’d like the name to be “community feed” and “feeds” for short. Reddit was always essentially a collective rss with voting weights. In this way “subs” would still work since one subscribes to the feeds.
Ultimately it’s something the devs need to encourage though
- ProgrammingSocks ( @ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social ) English47•8 months ago
What a goofy interpretation of that series of events. Reddit changes API which fucks over moderators -> mods protest and say if they can’t use these tools they can’t moderate -> when API restrictions come into effect, mods either leave over moderating being way harder now or basically not being able to mod
Why is that final step so hard for this person to believe? All of Reddit moderation wasn’t lying to people for fun
Why is that final step so hard for this person to believe? All of Reddit moderation wasn’t lying to people for fun
You are so naive to believe they even were aware of step 1 lol.
They just were mad at their favorite subreddits being closed against their will, that and just being inconsiderate pricks.
What amused me back then is that in most of the subreddits I was subbed there were polls where mods were gonna act as the results said, (we were basically running against the time, so there were not very many alternatives for this kind of democracy, I add this note because many people were very mad and argued they never got to nor realize there was an ongoing poll lol) and more users approved to keep the protests and regardless these cunts were saying that this was mod’s power abuse lol.
- WarmApplePieShrek ( @WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English2•8 months ago
Dead internet theory
- Yglorba ( @Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•8 months ago
Also wasn’t the sub basically taken over by one mod who spends their time working their way into as many moderator positions as possible and then not doing anything with them? Looking at their post history they’ve made like a dozen posts in the last month and one of them was asking to mod another sub.
- mr_right ( @mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English47•8 months ago
I like it here on Lemme. I feel pretty comfy. And most of you here are tech savvy. And if not, at least you have some level of basic true understanding of how technology works., Unlike those impostor syndrome redditors. And I suppose it’s a plus that corporations don’t hunt us down for discussing piracy.
- jackpot ( @jackpot@lemmy.ml ) English26•8 months ago
the larger we get, the more it will get fucked by ai bots, corporations, and shitty content creators
- TheFriendlyArtificer ( @TheFriendlyArtificer@beehaw.org ) English24•8 months ago
The term, “enshitification” is getting bandied about a lot. But the bots and corporations are an inevitable part of capitalism. Make money at all costs, never be satisfied with what you have, and treat everybody that isn’t you like a stepping stone.
Scammers and sociopathic c-levels are missing something fundamentally human. A complete lack of empathy. But this has always been a part of our species. The difference now is that we have a system that dramatically rewards that sickness. And that’s not even getting into how being able to be evil at scale is going to make the next few decades interesting.
- jackpot ( @jackpot@lemmy.ml ) English4•8 months ago
whats a c level
- el_eh_chase ( @el_eh_chase@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English5•8 months ago
Otherwise known as the C-suite executives. CEO, CTO, CFO, ect…
- EldritchFeminity ( @EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English12•8 months ago
The best way to fight it is to simply be unmarketable as a community. This is how Verizon ended up having to sell Tumblr for less than 1% of the price they paid for it like only 3 years later. If the cost outweighs the benefit, fewer people will bother trying.
- 01011 ( @01011@monero.town ) English3•8 months ago
How do we do that without becoming vulgar, sexist bigots?
- Kichae ( @Kichae@lemmy.ca ) English4•8 months ago
Have it as a distributed network of smaller instances, rather then having everyone pile on to 2 or 3 big ones. It’s easier for admins to notice the bots if their site populations remain relatively small, and it’s easier to defederate from sites that are enabling the bots if they’re not also home to 80% of users.
- Banzai51 ( @Banzai51@midwest.social ) English40•8 months ago
News reports have Reddit making the IPO push this year. Get ready for more DRAMA!
- Zuberi 👀 ( @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English32•8 months ago
Will be really sad when the ransomware files get leaked on the IPO date lol
Wait, what ransomware files lol.
- i_ben_fine ( @i_ben_fine@lemmy.one ) English31•8 months ago
Silly question: is there a community for real, sailing piracy?
- nonfuinoncuro ( @nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee ) English40•8 months ago
Not sure how many Somalis use Lemmy and how good their 5G is on the water
- Flax ( @Flax_vert@feddit.uk ) English10•8 months ago
Make a lemmy instance for somalian pirates
- Zoidberg ( @Zoidberg@lemm.ee ) English9•8 months ago
Probably better than at&t in the middle of the city.
- L31FY ( @L31FY@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English3•8 months ago
sad but true
- TheFriendlyArtificer ( @TheFriendlyArtificer@beehaw.org ) English9•8 months ago
I imagine there are fan groups for Our Flag Means Death.
- Gamma ( @GammaGames@beehaw.org ) English3•8 months ago
Got cancelled though, so don’t expect much growth
- Lad ( @AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com ) English29•8 months ago
Lol imagine still being on there
- S_204 ( @S_204@lemm.ee ) English5•8 months ago
It’s infinitely more active than this site. The discussion is equally shitty. The difference is people here feel self righteous…
- Juanjo Salvador ( @jsalvador@programming.dev ) English22•8 months ago
Considering I found this comment on Reddit, I guess so.
- pantyhosewimp ( @pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com ) English19•8 months ago
Hey, I remember this website from back in the day. They still around or is this old?
It is a bot land now.
- scv ( @scv@discuss.online ) English2•8 months ago
It’s more machine now than man. Twisted and evil.
- Sibbo ( @Sibbo@sopuli.xyz ) English16•8 months ago
I don’t see anything that would need to be moderated here? Or is it just about these comments that are unrelated to the post?
- DesolateMood ( @DesolateMood@lemm.ee ) English15•8 months ago
There are many (re)posts with this “if paying isn’t owning…” slogan and also many memes being made about the reposts. The piracy subreddit doesn’t seem to have a whole lot of piracy right now, it’s just, well, this
- Xirup ( @Xirup@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English12•8 months ago
Can someone explain me this “Reddit API” thing?
- django ( @django@discuss.tchncs.de ) English18•8 months ago
Mods used third party tools to help them with their unpaid work. These tools relied on access to the reddit api.
Then reddit charged ridiculous prices for api access, which would mean the apps would need money, so mods would need to pay to do their unpaid work or use the inferior reddit interface.
Given these choices, some mods decided to leave instead.
- survivalmachine ( @survivalmachine@beehaw.org ) English18•8 months ago
Reddit used to have an open API. A lot of mobile apps sprung up to access reddit over the years, with different features. Reddit gained a lot of loyal members through users of these apps, but couldn’t make ad revenue off them. Reddit decided last summer to start charging a lot of money to these app developers to continue using the API. A few of the apps started a for-pay subscription model to continue operating, but many just shut down their apps. Many redditors and Reddit mods revolted, because these apps made the site usable (some of them offered advanced mod tools, etc). We protested, shut down subreddits temporarily or permanently, deleted our accounts, moved to new platforms (like lemmy/kbin), etc. This was basically a move to maximize their ad revenue while Reddit positions itself for an IPO. It was really not cool.