- davel [he/him] ( @davel@lemmy.ml ) English55•5 months ago
Try not to make memes that imply you’re not anti-slavery.
- kaida ( @kaida@feddit.de ) 43•5 months ago
I‘m anti-slavery but that’s just not the reason I use main as default branch
yup same. I hate slavery just like anyone else but fail to see how naming a branch master has to do anything with it. Next are they gonna claim that master’s degree is pro slavery or something
- AggressivelyPassive ( @agressivelyPassive@feddit.de ) 39•5 months ago
Bachelor’s degree means you’re not married, so obviously an incel.
- jlow (he/him) ( @jlow@beehaw.org ) 13•5 months ago
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/06/us/racism-words-phrases-slavery-trnd/index.html
Tldr: They’re a reminder of slavery, some people feel uncomfortable using / hearing them, it would not be hard for you to make their lifes a bit better by not using them but you can obviously do whatever you like.
- Gabu ( @Gabu@lemmy.ml ) 14•5 months ago
RIght, because the best way to stop bad things from happening is to have everyone forget they happened…
- Deebster ( @Deebster@programming.dev ) 11•5 months ago
I put this one in the same camp as whichever well-meaning person came up with “happy holidays”. Other religions and cultures don’t mind Westerners celebrating Christmas, and over-corrections like this just give fuel to the “political correctness gone mad” (now re-branded as anti-woke) crowd.
- Umbrias ( @Umbrias@beehaw.org ) 1•5 months ago
It’s not really an over correction so much as just being more conscious of things. There are many westerners who don’t celebrate Christmas but also have winter holidays. It’s not an overcorrection, if anything the outrage was orchestrated to continue pushing Christmas as a default super holiday as a form of cultural encroachment on fall.
- 56! ( @56_@lemmy.ml ) 6•5 months ago
The term “master” is often used with the term “slave” in computing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master-slave_(technology)
So it wouldn’t be odd to assume that git’s use of the term “master” also refers to slavery.- magic_lobster_party ( @magic_lobster_party@kbin.social ) 10•5 months ago
although in the context of version control, the term master simply refers to the gold master, a term borrowed from the recording industry which refers to the final mixed version of a recording, and does not have a corresponding slave.
Either way, I think “main branch” is easier to say, so it’s a win.
- rwhitisissle ( @rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml ) 53•5 months ago
Instead of either, it’s good to have a more descriptive primary branch:
git checkout -b dontwritetothisbranchdirectlyyougottaopenaprfirstandhaveitreviewedandapprovedandthenpasstheautomatictests
- Kbin_space_program ( @Kbin_space_program@kbin.social ) 13•5 months ago
Git checkout -b neverpushtothisbranchthismeansyou
- synae[he/him] ( @synae@lemmy.sdf.org ) English5•5 months ago
git co -b nevergonnagiveyouupnevergonnaletyoudown
- rwhitisissle ( @rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml ) 5•5 months ago
Git checkout -b branchprotectiononlyworksifyouarenotsetupwithadminprivilegesontherepoingithubthismeansyouhowardgodammit
- WanakaTree ( @WanakaTree@lemm.ee ) 3•5 months ago
Y’all. At least put some dashes between the words
- Kbin_space_program ( @Kbin_space_program@kbin.social ) 1•5 months ago
Oh of course. But I was following the code standard set by the first one. I suspect everyone else was too.
- katy ✨ ( @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 1•5 months ago
howard knows what he did
- Artyom ( @Artyom@lemm.ee ) 3•5 months ago
git checkout -b dontcommitherejerry
- katy ✨ ( @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 2•5 months ago
git commit -m “that sign can’t stop me because i can’t read”
- masterspace ( @masterspace@lemmy.ca ) English5•5 months ago
Still shorter than a java class name.
- Empathy [he/him] ( @Empathy@beehaw.org ) 50•5 months ago
I use
main
because, although I never heard of anybody actually getting offended bymaster
, it costs me nothing to usemain
instead. Also it looks prettier and seems to be the new convention ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - alefunguju ( @alefunguju@lemmy.one ) 29•5 months ago
I use main as my default branch because it’s what Git has been defaulting to for some time now
- PoolloverNathan ( @PoolloverNathan@programming.dev ) 14•5 months ago
Git’s still master by default; github uses main for new repositories.
- whoareu ( @kionite231@lemmy.ca ) 9•5 months ago
You mean github.
- Hellfire103 ( @hellfire103@sopuli.xyz ) English28•5 months ago
I use
master
because I’m nostalgic. If it matters that much, though, I’ll start usingtrunk
(like we used to back in the days of SVN).- MrScruff ( @MrScruff@lemmy.ml ) 10•5 months ago
Don’t speak the name of that horror!
- Trailblazing Braille Taser ( @0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 7•5 months ago
At least it was better than CVS
- akari ( @akariii@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 2•5 months ago
trunk sounds cook. reminds me of that Dragon Ball character, naruto
- UnderwaterSwift ( @UnderwaterSwift@lemmy.ml ) 1•5 months ago
Hey I still use SVN
- Omega_Haxors ( @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml ) English24•5 months ago
It speaks to the deep rooted whiteness of the industry that such a common-sense change is treated as completely bullshit even to this day.
- derpgon ( @derpgon@programming.dev ) 9•5 months ago
It speaks to deep rooted butthurtness of USA boomers and constant need to enforce their stupid ass rules to others. It’s not racist, neither are blacklist or whitelist.
- lurker2718 ( @lurker2718@lemmings.world ) 8•5 months ago
Even ignoring the question of racism, they are still stupid names.
Imagine teaching a child about this and it asks: Why is white allowed and black not? The only answer is, because it is like this for a long time. If we name them allowlist and denylist, it is obvious to all English speaking people. Shouldn’t we strive for descriptive names in programming?
However, if you use names whitelist an blacklist, you need to make the implicit connection white-positive black-negative. Yes obviously this does not make you racist if you do this in programming. But is it good?
- derpgon ( @derpgon@programming.dev ) 5•5 months ago
White - light. Black - no light. White knight - good. Black knight - bad.
These two colors have a meaning. It has fuck all to do with skin color. And if you do, then you are helping to enable “useless racism” in the form of “this offends the black community”, while literally nobody gives a fuck.
Its a useless change in the sake of changing things. Everyone is tech eants the superstar and wants to say “Hey, you are using X (not Twitter in this case)! I made that, noice.”.
If someone decided to change it next week to
primary
, would you be for or against it?- bane_killgrind ( @bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml ) English4•5 months ago
Why is a filled checkbox positive and an empty checkbox negative
Sounds like white true black false is not universal
- lurker2718 ( @lurker2718@lemmings.world ) 1•5 months ago
Yes colors have a meaning. However, they change ober time and culture. So why not use the word which describes exactly what we mean?
I agree, nowadays blacklist/whitelist has practically nothing to do with skin color. However i do think it is weird to use the same words for describing the appearance of people and good/bad.
Well i would be indifferent to the renaming to primary, because it doesn’t really matter to me what they call their branches, as long as it is descriptive.
primary
also conveys the meaning. I would probably continue using main/dev because i see no reason to change.
I am not someone who says “You should change this!”. I just say, think of it, there are some reasons to change and the only reason to keep it, os that we did it always like this. I think there are reasons for selecting better words. And I am only annoyed by people who are outraged by things others do, which does not really affects them negatively. I get it that someone wants to continue using blacklist, master, etc. and I am ok with that.
- Omega_Haxors ( @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml ) English3•5 months ago
AL/BL. See, not stupid at all. You just don’t want to admit you’re deeply racist and that’s your motivation for caring a non-zero shit about this.
Programmers will literally uproot their entire language of choice if it’s required it but can’t replace one definition? Give me a fucking break.
- bane_killgrind ( @bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml ) English2•5 months ago
Taking this stuff personally is just intellectual laziness. The phrase “Allowlist” isn’t about that guy, and if he can’t grok that it isn’t he needs to work on himself.
- Auzy ( @Auzy@beehaw.org ) 2•5 months ago
I really don’t see the problem with switching the names.
You seem to be the only one in this entire discussion getting triggered about being more inclusive honestly. Nobody else cares…
But yeah, as others have said, the changes make sense regardless, and if it’s more inclusive, I have no problem with that. It’s not a big deal for me, but it might be for other people.
If you’re offended by the change, you can still use master as your main repo.
- Omega_Haxors ( @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml ) English2•5 months ago
Deepthroating the boot isn’t making your life any less shitty.
- Luvon ( @Luvon@beehaw.org ) 1•5 months ago
Every day there are thousands of students learning about more programming things and allow list and deny list are 2 things that are that much simpler to grok.
Direct names are good. It’s very explicit what those lists are for. It takes no cultural context. It takes no mental leaps.
Tech has so many things to learn, making concepts easier through naming is good.
- vojel ( @vojel@discuss.tchncs.de ) 20•5 months ago
Oh I don’t give a single fuck about the discussion, it’s technology, not politics. I am more upset that my company has some legacy repositories with master and the newer ones with a main branch. So everytime I want to create a MR with push options via command line I need to change main to master or visa versa.
- ShortN0te ( @ShortN0te@lemmy.ml ) 17•5 months ago
I find it funny how many ppl complained about it when it came up. Now it is the default on github and other code forges. And now one cares anymore if it is master or main.
- AggressivelyPassive ( @agressivelyPassive@feddit.de ) 43•5 months ago
It was never about the name itself, but about breaking a convention for extremely dubious reasons.
- Deebster ( @Deebster@programming.dev ) 10•5 months ago
On the plus side, forcing people to support alternative branch names surely has led to better software support for a core Git feature.
- lugal ( @lugal@lemmy.ml ) 7•5 months ago
You sound like a slave owner, ngl
I am not pro slavery but I will not free my chattel slaves. People just break with this tradition for extremely dubious reasons.
Listen to yourself!
Edit: I was thinking about putting “/s” at the end but thought it was obvious enough. I was wrong
- TheGreenGolem ( @TheGreenGolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English12•5 months ago
This is the epitome of Poe’s law
- lugal ( @lugal@lemmy.ml ) 3•5 months ago
Why do I keep getting this comment? Maybe I should call myself Poe in the future
- Deebster ( @Deebster@programming.dev ) 6•5 months ago
I think on the Fediverse (or just Lemmy?) I’ve seen more people who’d post your comment non-ironically. Or maybe they’re not serious either (but they’d have to be really committed to the bit).
- lugal ( @lugal@lemmy.ml ) 2•5 months ago
I had a conversation recently where someone said they weren’t serious after several levels of comments that were downvoted into oblivion. I try to make myself understood in the second (or third) level of comments or, as in this case, in an edit
- fl42v ( @fl42v@lemmy.ml ) 2•5 months ago
Sb got offended for no reason, then companies decided to get public approval points out of it; nothing new or notable. Seriously, tf is the point of overanalyzing it like there’s nothing better to do?
- ninpnin ( @ninpnin@sopuli.xyz ) 1•5 months ago
People like you are why JavaScript exists
- Kbin_space_program ( @Kbin_space_program@kbin.social ) 12•5 months ago
Because its a non issue to developers.
It was only a hand wringing thing by internet bloggers.
- cmnybo ( @cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ) English10•5 months ago
Master is still the default branch when you run
git init
.- Farid ( @abfarid@startrek.website ) 4•5 months ago
Depends on your version of git, I believe.
- cmnybo ( @cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ) English7•5 months ago
The latest version from kernel.org still uses master. It’s certainly possible for distro maintainers to change it on the versions they package though.
- Farid ( @abfarid@startrek.website ) 5•5 months ago
Yeah, seems like I’m wrong. I looked up the docs on git-scm.com and it says that the default branch name is “currently master, but this is subject to change in the future”. Maybe GitHub threw me off.
- words_number ( @words_number@programming.dev ) 17•5 months ago
I also think it’s more descriptive. Just like blocklist and allowlist.
- ryannathans ( @ryannathans@aussie.zone ) 13•5 months ago
Master gang
- IsoSpandy ( @IsoSpandy@lemm.ee ) 8•5 months ago
I use master because when I do ‘git init .’ I get a master branch and I am lazy enough to not rename it. As for typing it later on… . Well zsh does that for me
- shiveyarbles ( @shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ) 7•5 months ago
Slave owning GitHub users everywhere offended
- progettarsi ( @progettarsi@feddit.it ) 3•5 months ago
does it count anything? like… no one’s gonna find my repository anyway
- NigelFrobisher ( @NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ) 3•5 months ago
Trunk Master Race.
- SrTobi ( @SrTobi@feddit.de ) 2•5 months ago
I like und use “main” because it’s shorter, but call it master branch in colloquial speech because it’s cooler.