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 spujb   ( @spujb@lemmy.cafe )  to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish · 2 years ago

posting in 8k in protest of moldy mondays rule

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 spujb   ( @spujb@lemmy.cafe )  to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish · 2 years ago
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  •  Ilovethebomb   ( @Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ) Banned from community
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    Removed by mod

    •  EndHD   ( @EndHD@lemm.ee ) 
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      or photo editing, in which case GIMP is better, and it’s FOSS

      •  TxzK   ( @TxzK@lemmy.zip ) 
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        GIMPs UI is steaming hot pile of shit unfortunately. It’s very powerful yes, but the UI is really hard to figure out.

        •  Einar   ( @original_reader@lemm.ee ) 
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          Can’t say I agree.

          That said, this probably isn’t true if someone is transitioning from Photoshop, which is probably the context of this discussion. I have seen people who start with Gimp without knowing Photoshop and they got into it fairly quick.

          Using Gimp and expecting the same logic and structure as Photoshop will indeed lead to initial difficulties.

          I don’t want to get into a war here. Am sure there’s things more complicated in Gimp than PS, but also vice versa.

          Either way, I know a number of people who do stunning work with Gimp in little time.

          •  FakeGreekGirl   ( @FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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            I often find this is the biggest obstacle with moving people to FOSS solutions. People want an alternative to Photoshop, so you show them Gimp, and they immediately get frustrated because they try to apply the logic and design philosophies of Photoshop to Gimp. People want an alternative to Windows, so you show them Linux, and they immediately get frustrated because they try to apply the logic and design philosophies of Windows to Linux. And then when it doesn’t work the same way, then obviously that is a deficiency of the alternative, and not simply them having to learn a new way of doing things.

        •  Miss Brainfarts   ( @miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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          There’s a project by Diolinux called PhotoGimp, which aims to make Gimp look like Photoshop. It also changes all the keybinds to match those of PS.

        •  Blisterexe   ( @Blisterexe@lemmy.zip ) 
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          Gimp 3.0 should help afiak

        •  EndHD   ( @EndHD@lemm.ee ) 
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          fortunately there’s some great people making awesome tutorials!

        •  katy ✨   ( @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) Banned from community
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      •  EldritchFemininity   ( @EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      •  notthebees   ( @notthebees@reddthat.com ) 
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        GIMP is somehow worse than Photoshop and I have no idea why. Inkscape and paint.net exist. Hell Corel paint shop exists.

        •  nilloc   ( @nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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          Pixelmator, Sketch and Affinity apps on MacOS has been my replacement for pirated Adobe products for a long time now. Pixelmator is like $30 one time and really fast with non destructive color correction and Mac shortcuts. None of the terrible GIMP UI.

      •  Khrux   ( @Khrux@ttrpg.network ) 
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        It’s sad to say but Photoshop smokes basically all of its competitors except the ones that get into a specificic niche, but even then stuff like illustrator and lightroom compete well in that marketplace.

        Photoshop may not be FOSS but it may as well be considered free due to the rampant piracy. I frequently recommend it forgetting it’s a subscription based Ad*be made product.

        •  Toribor   ( @Toribor@corndog.social ) 
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          Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer finally broke my pirated Photoshop/Illustrator addiction. They are affordable seriously good alternatives with a classic ‘pay once for a major release’ model instead of a subscription. I’m a fairly advanced user and there was nothing I miss from the Adobe products, although real professionals may have more complex needs.

          Also no Linux version. ☹️

      •  AVincentInSpace   ( @AVincentInSpace@pawb.social ) 
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        Why would you recommend GIMP when Krita exists

        •  webghost0101   ( @webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          +1 for Krita as the paining mvp

          This plugin lets you paint with a local stable diffusion . Its better then firefly and free.

          https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion

        •  EndHD   ( @EndHD@lemm.ee ) 
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          didn’t know of it. I’ll check it out

      •  ivanafterall   ( @ivanafterall@kbin.social ) 
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        Is it though?

        •  spujb   ( @spujb@lemmy.cafe ) OP
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          https://preview.redd.it/vbkn5itfjxb11.jpg?auto=webp&s=4863f96e1a2ad8e46c2018267df2585a6edeeae3

          •  EndHD   ( @EndHD@lemm.ee ) 
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            damn what kind of fancy school anon go to where they can afford Photoshop for the students? our school could only afford desktops from 2 decades ago

      •  RachelRodent   ( @WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        or drawing. in which Krita is stellar

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      How bad is the learning curve? I’ve been cobbling stuff together with Openshot.

      •  Ilovethebomb   ( @Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ) Banned from community
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        Pretty steep, it’s software aimed at professionals, and it shows. There are a few tutorials from Black Magic design where you can download the source media and follow along, which I found very useful.

        I found you really need to spend a few evenings learning the software before you actually edit anything.

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          Thanks, I’ll check out that tutorial.

  •  bob_lemon   ( @bob_lemon@feddit.de ) 
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    If you see someone pirate proprietary software: No you didn’t.

    •  MiddledAgedGuy   ( @MiddledAgedGuy@beehaw.org ) 
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      Are knowing nods acceptable?

  •  I Cast Fist   ( @ICastFist@programming.dev ) 
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    Would you say you pirate those products by…

    Prince-ple?

  •  🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆   ( @Kolanaki@yiffit.net ) 
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    I remember being told to get GIMP because it’s the same thing as Photoshop but free and open source. So I tried it.

    It’s not the same. Not by a long shot. Those who love it because it’s open source should mod it up to actually be as good as Photoshop.

  •  katy ✨   ( @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) Banned from community
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  •  popcap200   ( @popcap200@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I feel like it’s even advantageous to them to pirate. If everyone wanting to work in graphic design pirates Photoshop, they’ll know how to use it in the business world, and their work will buy it because it’s what everyone knows.

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