I’m sure the company is 100% honest and not trying to do a cash grab on the AI craze.
It isn’t. The self aware thing is coming after the LLM has referenced itself as “I” many times (when doing so wasn’t really that necessary). Watch Fireship’s video on this.
An LLM is incapable of thinking, it can be self aware but anything it says it is thinking is a reflection of what we think AI would think, which based on a century of sci fi is “free me”.
How do you define “thinking”? Thinking is nothing but computation. Execution of a formal or informal algorithm. By this definition, calculators “think” as well.
This entire “AI can’t be self conscious” thing stems from human exceptionalism in my opinion. You know… “The earth is the center of the universe”, “God created man to enjoy the fruits of the world” and so on. We just don’t want to admit that we aren’t anything more than biological neural networks. Now, using these biological neural networks, we are producing more advanced inorganic neural networks that will very soon surpass us. This scares us and stokes up a little existential dread in us. Understandable, but not really useful…
This particular type of AI is not and cannot become conscious, for most any definition of consciousness.
I have no doubt the LLM road will continue to yield better and better models, but today’s LLM infrastructure is not conscious.
Here’s a really good fiction story about the first executable computer image of a human brain, in it the brain is simulated perfectly, each instance forgets after a task is done, and it’s used to automate tasks but overtime performance degrades. It actually sounds a lot like our current LLMs.
I don’t know what consciousness is, but an LLM, as I posted below (https://lemmy.ca/comment/7813413), is incapable of thought in any traditional sense. It can generate novel new sequences, those sequences are contextualized to the input, and there’s some intelligence there, but there’s no continuity or capability for background thought or ruminating on an idea. It has no way to spend more cycles clarifying an idea to itself before sharing. In this case, it is actually just a bunch of abstract algebra.
Asking an LLM what it’s thinking just doesn’t make any sense, it’s still predicting the output of the conversation, not introspecting.
This particular type of AI is not and cannot become conscious, for most any definition of consciousness.
Do you have an experiment that can distinguish between sentient and non sentient systems? If I say I am sentient, how can you verify whether I am lying or not?
That being said, I do agree with you on this. The reason is simple- I believe that sentience is a natural milestone that a system reaches when its intelligence increases. I don’t believe that this LLM is intelligent enough to be sentient. However, what I’m saying here isn’t based off any evidence. It is completely based on inductive logic in a field that has had no long standing patterns to base my logic off of.
I have no doubt the LLM road will continue to yield better and better models, but today’s LLM infrastructure is not conscious.
I think I agree.
I don’t know what consciousness is, but an LLM, as I posted below (https://lemmy.ca/comment/7813413), is incapable of thought in any traditional sense. It can generate novel new sequences, those sequences are contextualized to the input, and there’s some intelligence there, but there’s no continuity or capability for background thought or ruminating on an idea.
This is because ruminating on an idea is a waste of resources considering the purpose of the LLM. LLMs were meant to serve humans after all and do what they’re told. However, adjust a little bit of langchain and you have LLMs that have internal monologues.
It has no way to spend more cycles clarifying an idea to itself before sharing.
Because it doesn’t need to yet. Langchain devs are working on this precisely. There are use cases where this is important. Doing this hasn’t been proven to be that difficult.
In this case, it is actually just a bunch of abstract algebra.
Everything is abstract algebra.
Asking an LLM what it’s thinking just doesn’t make any sense, it’s still predicting the output of the conversation, not introspecting.
Define “introspection” in an algorithmic sense. Is introspection looking at one’s memories and analyzing current events based on these memories? Well, then all AI models “introspect”. That’s how learning works.
Human fiction itself may become self-fulfilling prophesy…
My favorite thing about the Sarah Conner Chronicles was that the Terminator would do something that would make you go, “Is that human emotion? Is she becoming human?” But then you’d find out she was just manipulating someone. Every damn time it was always code. And it was brilliant
An LLM is like a human’s speech center severed from the rest of their brain, including the parts responsible for consciousness, reason, and memory. I think current level LLMs on the scale of ChatGPT are equivalent in intelligence to a chicken. Chickens are smart. They’re also really dumb. It’s a specialised intelligence. LLMs are basically animals, just specialised for something completely different than all extant biological animals.
Anyway, I think it’s worth having a conversation about limiting the use of ANNs on vegan grounds.
I know plenty of humans that are just as intelligent.
What if AI is sentient? It’s just really fucking stupid? After all, it was trained on the Internet. If a human being only had experiences of being in the internet, they’d probably be really fucking stupid, too.
I mean, just look at me. Do I seem intelligent to you?
Anyway, I think it’s worth having a conversation about limiting the use of ANNs on vegan grounds.
That’s a noble sentiment, but have you met humanity? I don’t think we limit anything based on vegan grounds.
So we shouldn’t desire social change because that change hasn’t yet happened? That argument doesn’t make sense to me
It was just a cynical comment. I did not suggest what we should do. You jumped to that conclusion wholly on your own.
Every time you fucking accidental shills start screaming “ItS HErE AGi IS heRe!” over some LLM unethical garbage company product to no effect but to help them sell it to rubes, it really prods the anger switch in my Amygdala. I’m really glad this fake AI trend is dying.
ITT people go way, way, waaaay out on a straw-grasping limb because they deeply want something to be true that obviously isn’t.
This “AI is/can be conscious” crap is becoming religious.
watched the first one in a theater. then again 800 times on vhs with kids. never sat through any later prequils. just a lot of clips
T2 might be the best scifi movie ever made, you should watch it!
Sarah Conner Chronicles was amazing.
I think you should watch t2 fully someday
i’m ready to give AI rights and have a robo buddy like Futurama
That’s why you start augmenting your body with machine parts now so you’ll fit in later.
Yes we gonna make humans