- LoamImprovement ( @LoamImprovement@beehaw.org ) English46•7 months ago
I mean a lot of them also don’t believe we landed unmanned units on mars, or humans on the moon, for that matter, so…
- WarmSoda ( @WarmSoda@lemm.ee ) English18•7 months ago
It’s funny, I’ve heard plenty of morons talk about flat earth, but I’ve never seen anyone say anything about Mars.
- Jolteon ( @Jolteon@lemmy.zip ) English14•7 months ago
Mars is obviously a star, since it is in the sky and glows.
- hydroptic ( @hydroptic@sopuli.xyz ) English9•7 months ago
Some of those dumb fucks think that it’s just Earth that’s flat, but other planets are round – probably because it’s so bleeding obvious they are when you look at them through a telescope. Somehow that logic doesn’t apply to the Earth though
- MrFunnyMoustache ( @MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml ) English9•7 months ago
Don’t give them any ideas.
- OpenStars ( @OpenStars@startrek.website ) English29•7 months ago
But surely you must understand how someone, having failed all of their classes and then dropped out of school altogether, understands complex matters better than the people who are brilliant, have international acclaim, and devoted like 5 decades of their lives to study that same thing?
Or you know, at least watched this 11-minute video?
And if you do, can you explain it to me? :-P So far all I have is “Might Makes Right”, but somehow that seems to be lacking something…
- wise_pancake ( @wise_pancake@lemmy.ca ) English12•7 months ago
They failed because they’re obviously smarter than science and not the other way around.
- OpenStars ( @OpenStars@startrek.website ) English5•7 months ago
Also, are we not going to discuss the conspiracy theory that many of the people espousing this ideology were mysteriously killed!? And their families too! In fact, anyone even so much as near them had a chance to be affected, possibly some still here but with permanent brain damage!
Sounds pretty sus if you ask me…
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- fckreddit ( @fckreddit@lemmy.ml ) English17•7 months ago
I am reasonably sure that a fair many conservatives feel that they are entitled to their biases and fallacies and the world must bend to these biases.
- FlaminGoku ( @FlaminGoku@reddthat.com ) English16•7 months ago
Fauci is to blame. The path of evil is paved in good intention.
The fucker told everyone that they didn’t need masks.
What he was intending to do was make sure doctors and emergency personnel had masks. instead, it became an inflection point of publicly dividing the nation.
- TexMexBazooka ( @TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee ) English28•7 months ago
Let’s be real, the misinfosphere would’ve have found something else to misguide the morons. He didn’t even say “you don’t need masks”, he said “don’t buy all the masks, stay inside”
- AggressivelyPassive ( @agressivelyPassive@feddit.de ) English16•7 months ago
I think the much deeper reason is, that stupid people can’t fathom that knowledge can change. They can’t understand that scientists legitimately didn’t know better, despite their best efforts. They can’t accept, that scientists come to other conclusions based on new data, instead they assume some ulterior motive.
- Akasazh ( @Akasazh@feddit.nl ) English13•7 months ago
Reluctance against masks was not unique to the USA
- Chuymatt ( @Chuymatt@beehaw.org ) English3•7 months ago
Well, then there was the intent to let it run its course, as it was only hitting blue states at that time… it was a bit of a cluster…
- Chuymatt ( @Chuymatt@beehaw.org ) English2•7 months ago
Do you recall the people hoarding and trying to profit off of toilet paper, alcohol sanitizer, Clorox wipes? 
- arymandias ( @arymandias@feddit.de ) English11•7 months ago
What is the thesis of this meme, that people are just stupid and there is no underlying problem or system that can be improved?
Science is often communicated to the public via either companies, politics, or the media. Which al have their own interests and issues in representing “scientific facts”. To give some examples of the “science” people have been exposed to: These new pain killers are perfectly save and absolutely not addictive. Making health care accessible is actually bad for the economy and will be more expensive in the end. Or the numerous articles on outlier papers published in the media that conclude that it’s actually healthy to [insert obviously unhealthy habit here (sponsored by some industry group)].
Science has a communication problem, and the communication conduits have a huge credibility problem. The results of which made an already bad pandemic even worse.
- OldWoodFrame ( @OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee ) English3•7 months ago
The thesis is that you should listen to experts when you don’t know what you’re talking about. No one is saying experts are never wrong, but they’re more likely to be right than just some guy. There’s a whole lot of ‘just some guys’ who claim to appreciate science until it tells them something they don’t want to hear. That’s what the meme is against.
- kent_eh ( @kent_eh@lemmy.ca ) English1•7 months ago
Science is often communicated to the public via either companies, politics, or the media. Which al have their own interests and issues in representing “scientific facts”.
Science is communicated using whatever means has an audience.
Science is also communicated much more precisely and accurately in scientific journals, but those generally aren’t easily accessible to the wider public.
Do you have a suggestion to how we might solve those 2 overlapping problems?
- itsgroundhogdayagain ( @itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml ) English6•7 months ago
Step on Mars but not on snek.
- CableMonster ( @CableMonster@lemmy.ml ) English5•7 months ago
Are we really still pretending the mask I got from the front bin of Home Depot actually works?
Can we look at the other claims the government “scientists” claimed to see how they were not real scientists?
- 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️ ( @Kolanaki@yiffit.net ) English12•7 months ago
It certainly works better than nothing at all.
- nickwitha_k (he/him) ( @nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ) English3•7 months ago
Nothing at all Nothing at all nothing at all…
- 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️ ( @Kolanaki@yiffit.net ) English2•7 months ago
Stupid sexy N95’s…
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English7•7 months ago
damn i uh. Yup i read that statement.
Ok im going to go jerk off to furry porn or something immensely more productive than what i just spent time doing.
- octopus_ink ( @octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ) English5•7 months ago
Are we really still pretending the mask I got from the front bin of Home Depot actually works?
Are we still pretending <100% effectiveness = worthless? (Just kidding, I know folks are.)
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449
- CableMonster ( @CableMonster@lemmy.ml ) English1•7 months ago
The issue here is that people pretended masks were very affective, and I have not seen any actual data that they were very useful. I have seen a lot of memes like the one above that pretend they were essential when the only data I ever recall seeing was they were overall 4% useful, by a pro-mask source. And if you look around there are lots of sources that said they did nothing, I dont know which is true, but lack of solid evidence seems to point to it was pointless.
Do you think masks should have been mandated indoors if they had a 4% impact? How about 0.1%?
- octopus_ink ( @octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ) English5•7 months ago
Twentyish studies are sourced at the bottom of the article I linked, and it details the effectiveness of each mask type in the body of the article. Why we are discussing mandates now I don’t know, feels like a bit of the ol’ goalposts on wheels to me, it’s not what I replied to.
- CableMonster ( @CableMonster@lemmy.ml ) English1•7 months ago
I think this is the most important part of the article “Yes. When used with measures such as getting vaccinated, hand-washing and physical distancing, wearing a face mask slows how quickly the virus that causes COVID-19 spreads.” It essentially says do all the things and it will be impactful.
At what level of impact do you think masks should have been forced on people?
- octopus_ink ( @octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ) English4•7 months ago
I’m not going to re-litigate mask mandates with you. I’m sure you’ll find someone happy to have that argument. You can keep moving those goalposts, but I’m not following.
- CableMonster ( @CableMonster@lemmy.ml ) English1•7 months ago
That was really the big question back in the day, and when I see spotty evidence at best for mandating something that really is the key question.
- ColeSloth ( @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ) English4•7 months ago
Well you have to let the virus out if you want to get rid of it. Why do you think there’s that saying about having to pass a cold along?
- omxxi ( @omxxi@feddit.de ) English4•7 months ago
white hoods covering the whole head are ruined too