- qjkxbmwvz ( @qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website ) English146•7 months ago
Similar with Y2K — it was only a nothingburger because it was taken seriously, and funded well. But the narrative is sometimes, “yeah lol it was a dud.”
- TonyTonyChopper ( @TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ) English47•7 months ago
All this hysteria over nuclear weapons is overblown. We’ve known how to build them for 75 years yet there hasn’t been a single one detonated on inhabited American soil. They’re harmless
- Killing_Spark ( @Killing_Spark@feddit.de ) English26•7 months ago
You even dropped a few accidentally and nothing happened! Complete duds these things really
- hedidwot ( @hedidwot@lemmynsfw.com ) English4•7 months ago
WTF?
Unless that was sarcasm that I missed… 100’s of weapons have been tested on US soil…
- TonyTonyChopper ( @TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ) English7•7 months ago
inhabited
- hedidwot ( @hedidwot@lemmynsfw.com ) English3•7 months ago
Not sure what you mean.
The US was inhabited last I checked.
- fine_sandy_bottom ( @fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de ) English23•7 months ago
I can’t remember the name but I think this is some kind of paradox.
Like the preventative measures we’re so effective that they created a perception that there was no risk in the first place.
- Matombo ( @Matombo@feddit.de ) English26•7 months ago
It’s called the prevention paradox: It’s when an issue is so severe that it is prevented with proactive action, so no real consequenses are felt so people think it wasn’t severe in the first place.
- IvanOverdrive ( @IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee ) English23•7 months ago
Case in point: Measles. It was a thing when I was a kid. Then it wasn’t. Now my kids have to deal with Measles because we can’t teach scientific literacy.
- cqthca ( @cqthca@reddthat.com ) English2•7 months ago
that waste of effort cold war… /s
- 4am ( @4am@lemm.ee ) English15•7 months ago
“Lol Elon rocket go boom, science isn’t real” is also happening
Stupid people just think they’re the smartest ones in the room now
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) English18•7 months ago
Elon musk isn’t a scientist, he’s a scammer who got lucky. That, and an asshole.
- Scrof ( @Scrof@sopuli.xyz ) English8•7 months ago
Well considering Elon situation I wouldn’t blame anyone for making fun of his idiotic ventures. Also starship is actually dumb and saying “you expected for it to blow up” is something no real scientist would’ve said unless they were making a bomb.
- CybranM ( @CybranM@feddit.nu ) English7•7 months ago
How is Starship dumb exactly? Making a new thing at any extreme of our current capability is going to be hard and its not unexpected when something goes wrong. What would be dumb is if they put human lives on the line
- neidu2 ( @neidu2@feddit.nl ) English10•7 months ago
I wasn’t working in the IT field back then, as I was only 16, but as I knew that it’d most likely be my field one day (yup, I was right), I followed this closely due to interest, and applied patches accordingly.
Everything kept working fine except this one modem I had.
- Trantarius ( @Tranus@programming.dev ) English5•7 months ago
Y2K specifically makes no sense though. Any reasonable way of storing a year would use a binary integer of some length (especially when you want to use as little memory as possible). The same goes for manipulations; they are faster, more memory efficient, and easier to implement in binary. With an 8-bit signed integer counting from 1900, the concerning overflows would occur in 2028, not 2000. A base 10 representation would require at least 8 bits to store a two digit number anyway. There is no advantage to a base 10 representation, and there never has been. For Y2K to have been anything more significant than a text formatting issue, a whole lot of programmers would have had to go out of their way to be really, really bad at their jobs. Also, usage of dates beyond 2000 would have increased gradually for decades leading up to it, so the idea it would be any sort of sudden catastrophe is absurd.
- The Octonaut ( @TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ) English29•7 months ago
The issue wasn’t using the dates. The issue was the computer believing it was now on those dates.
I’m going to assume you aren’t old enough to remember, but the “only two digits to represent the year” issue predates computers. Lots of paper forms just gave two digits. And a lot of early computer work was just digitising paper forms.
- Scrollone ( @Scrollone@feddit.it ) English21•7 months ago
I remember paper forms having “19__” in the year field. Good times
- GoodEye8 ( @GoodEye8@lemm.ee ) English25•7 months ago
You’re thinking of the problem with modern solutions in mind. Y2K originates from punch cards where everything was stored in characters. To save space only the last 2 digits of the year because back then you didn’t need to store the 19 of year 19xx. The technique of storing data stayed the same for a long time despite technology advancing beyond punch cards. The assumption that it’s always 19xx caused the Y2K bug because once it overflows to 00 the system doesn’t know if it’s 1900 or 2000.
- frezik ( @frezik@midwest.social ) English15•7 months ago
With an 8-bit signed integer counting from 1900…
Some of the computers in question predate standardizing on 8 bits to the byte. You’ve got a whole post here of bad assumptions about how things worked.
- Matombo ( @Matombo@feddit.de ) English6•7 months ago
Oh boy you heavily underestimate the amount and level of bad decision in legacy protokoll. Read up in the toppic. the Date was for a loong time stored as 6 decimal numbers.
- bufalo1973 ( @bufalo1973@lemmy.ml ) English3•7 months ago
Look some info on BCD or EBCDIC.
- Pandantic [they/them] ( @Pandantic@midwest.social ) English64•7 months ago
There were goddamn Nickelodeon phone-a-thons where you pledged to not use cfc products. This shit was serious.
Edit: I just remembered ,they talked about how bad the sun was for kids in Australia, or something.
- PhlubbaDubba ( @PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ) English41•7 months ago
This has since been determined to have tack on benefits in the fight against the climate crisis as well, it’s halved the potential growth in global average temperatures by 2100, which cannot be overstated in just how fantastic that is.
We went from everyone being baked alive and having 20 kinds of skin cancer to boot to merely dealing with catastrophic climate change and society changing people migrations the likes of which haven’t been documented since the successive eras of steppe invasions into Europe, China, India, and the Middle East.
Out of the fire and into the frying pan.
- Underwaterbob ( @Underwaterbob@lemm.ee ) English27•7 months ago
And didn’t they find a bunch of Chinese factories pumping them out again not long ago?
- 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️ ( @Kolanaki@yiffit.net ) English25•7 months ago
Imagine that… Believing what scientists say? Who does that?
Grinds teeth and silently screams inside his head
- ֆᎮ⊰◜◟⋎◞◝⊱ֆᎮ ( @Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English2•7 months ago
Same same 😔
- root_beer ( @root_beer@midwest.social ) English14•7 months ago
Like he even read the response
- Railcar8095 ( @Railcar8095@lemm.ee ) English3•7 months ago
The problem is not if he reads the response, it’s that the followers won’t or if they do, will just fight it.
- Queen HawlSera ( @HawlSera@lemm.ee ) English12•7 months ago
Conservatives aren’t used to the concept of “Problems go away when you do something about them.”
They are stuck in the mindset of “The problem will always be with us, so just shame those suffering from it and isolate them so we don’t catch their problem.”
- bumphot ( @bumphot@lemy.lol ) English3•7 months ago
To be honest, this is not just conservatives.
- ditty ( @dditty@lemm.ee ) English12•7 months ago
Matt Walsh be like “What is an Ozone?”
- Hexarei ( @Hexarei@programming.dev ) English2•7 months ago
It’s that one band the numa numa guy got famous for dancing to: https://youtu.be/YnopHCL1Jk8?si=Eaky3c_aYaKBjN0j
- rimjob_rainer ( @rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de ) English10•7 months ago
Tell me you are dumb without telling me you are dumb
- Asafum ( @Asafum@feddit.nl ) English11•7 months ago
Right? Stupid science bitch making up things like “chlorofluorocarbons” and “global cooperation.”
- cqthca ( @cqthca@reddthat.com ) English5•7 months ago
the science bitch that invented CFCs also invented Tetra Ethyl Lead fuel additive, “leaded gasoline” was also cleaned up,… mainly.
- Mobile ( @Mobile@leminal.space ) English3•7 months ago
Respectfully, the word should be stupid. Not dumb.They surely did not have a lack of words. They’re stupid lol
- NigelFrobisher ( @NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ) English9•7 months ago
There are no stupid takes, just stupid people.
- dangblingus ( @dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English5•7 months ago
Turns out, that the hole in the ozone layer didn’t get repaired. In fact, it’s larger than it’s ever been and above the Antarctic. Antarctica is currently experiencing a mass die-off of animals. We didn’t do shit. This is pure climate change copium.
- cobra89 ( @cobra89@beehaw.org ) English13•7 months ago
We definitely did something. It just would have been a lot worse if we didn’t. In fact so bad that BBC says the planet would have been “uninhabitable.”
According to some models, the Montreal Protocol and its amendments have helped prevent up to two million cases of skin cancer yearly and avoided millions of cataract cases worldwide.
Had the world not banned CFCs, we would now find ourselves nearing massive ozone depletion. “By 2050, it’s pretty well-established we would have had ozone hole-like conditions over the whole planet, and the planet would have become uninhabitable,” says Solomon.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220321-what-happened-to-the-worlds-ozone-hole
- Midnitte ( @Midnitte@beehaw.org ) English2•7 months ago
That’s not true at all.
In 2019, abnormal weather patterns in the upper atmosphere over Antarctica dramatically limited ozone depletion, leading to the smallest hole since 1982. Models predict that the Antarctic ozone layer will mostly recover by 2040. - Source
- Toes♀ ( @Toes@ani.social ) English4•7 months ago
Misleading post, it seems to imply that it helped significantly.
- Digger9850 ( @Digger9850@programming.dev ) English1•7 months ago
Woow it’s impressive how you all follow the narrative. Here is your bone. Good doggie. My god
- SomeoneSomewhere ( @SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz ) English31•7 months ago
Has it occurred to you that sometimes there’s actual evidence backing up the things you ridicule?
You can go measure the acidity of rain in your back yard if you want.
The sunlight in NZ is far, far harsher than if you go a few thousand kilometres towards the equator, where it should be hotter. We have some of the world’s highest rates of skin cancer. Are you implying that crisis actors are faking having skin cancer?
- rambaroo ( @rambaroo@lemmynsfw.com ) English4•7 months ago
Says the guy who just believes whatever bullshit climate deniers make up. Imagine being so ignorant that you’re not aware we stopped using CFCs decades ago and that’s why there’s no hole in the ozone layer anymore. Fucking moron.
- TexMexBazooka ( @TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee ) English3•7 months ago
Yeeeaaahhh its everyone else that’s wrong