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coffeeClean ( coffeeClean@infosec.pub )  to DeGoogle Yourself@lemmy.ml ·
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motivation to deGoogle: Creditors can lock your Android remotely if you are delinquent.

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motivation to deGoogle: Creditors can lock your Android remotely if you are delinquent.

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coffeeClean ( coffeeClean@infosec.pub )  to DeGoogle Yourself@lemmy.ml ·
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I installed NetGuard about a month ago and blocked all internet to apps, unless they’re on a whitelist. No notifications from this particular system app (that can’t be disabled) until recently when it started making internet connection requests to google servers. Does anyone know when this became a thing? Edit 2: I bought my Pixel 6 phone outright, directly from Google’s Australian store. I have no creditors. Were the courts not enough control for creditors? Since when are they allowed to lock you out of your purchased property without a court order? I don’t even live in the US, so what the actual fuck? Edit 1: You can check it’s installed (stock Pixel 6 android 14) Settings > Apps > All Apps > three dot menu, Show system > search “DeviceLockController”. I highly recommend getting NetGuard, you can enable pro features via their website if you have the APK for as low as 0.10€, but donate more, because it’s amazing. You can also purchase via Google Play store.

The technical mechanism:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.devicelock

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To be clear, I am not the OP who experienced this problem. I just linked them from here.

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  • CubitOom ( CubitOom@infosec.pub ) 
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    I for one am glad that it was deemed safe for 3 year olds to be indebted to creditors.

    • owen ( owen@lemmy.ca ) 
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      I just thought of a new business: Baby Debt.

      We trick children into signing contract so we can legally control them financially for life.

      Baby Debt: It’s Not Illegal

  • Norgur ( Norgur@kbin.social ) 
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    Wasn’t this app some exclusive thing for a marketing scheme in Kenya for Android Go? If so… maybe your phone has a… African history?
    https://blog.google/intl/en-africa/products/android-chrome-play/growing-access-and-inclusion-with-more/

  • AdmiralShat ( AdmiralShat@programming.dev ) 
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    Couldn’t you just remove it with ADB?

    • coffeeClean ( coffeeClean@infosec.pub ) OP
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      I think someone mentioned this is in the Playstore services stuff that’s hardwired in to the platform. Which means if a device is unrooted you can possibly do: $ adb shell 'pm disable --user 13 com.google.android.gms'.

    • kratoz29 ( kratoz29@lemm.ee ) 
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      Root or get out, I have been rooting since 2020 and I decide what the heck to do with my phone 😁

      • AdmiralShat ( AdmiralShat@programming.dev ) 
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        I mean, the people this was targeted at were Kenyans who otherwise couldn’t afford a phone, I don’t think the people this applies to can afford to chose a phone model

      • coffeeClean ( coffeeClean@infosec.pub ) OP
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        If I were to simultaneously demand:

        • a phone with a relatively non-evil brand (thus obscure), and
        • a rootable phone (thus a mainstream one)

        that leaves me with no phone at all. Because only popular mainstream models get rooted and they’re all made by the worst companies.

        When my current phone loses its usefulness I might even go without. Or possibly get one 2nd hand although the 2nd hand market still supports the 1st hand market.

        • N4CHEM ( N4CHEM@lemmy.ml ) 
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          You could use a FairPhone

          • coffeeClean ( coffeeClean@infosec.pub ) OP
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            I think Fairphone did not exist when I last bought a phone. But you make a good point; I overlooked that. It will probably be my next phone whenever I reach a point where open street maps no longer updates on my phone.

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    Everyone is too busy in the Apple circlejerk threads to care about this type of thing

  • Cyborganism ( cyborganism@lemmy.ca ) 
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    You have a pixel phone. Just install Calyx OS on it.

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      I don’t think that necessarily helps. I’m running GrapheneOS and “DeviceLockController” is installed there as well. From what I read, it’s because it’s part of AOSP.

      I did take all permissions and from the system logs it reads that this app never has been used or tried to send anything to begin with.

      • flora_explora ( flora_explora@beehaw.org ) 
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        I’m running CalyxOS and cannot find this app. Is it listed among regular apps?

        • Senseless ( Senseless@feddit.de ) 
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          No. It’s a system app. Look for “DeviceLockController” or “com.android.devicelockcontroller”

          • flora_explora ( flora_explora@beehaw.org ) 
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            Thanks, apparently not installed anyways :)

    • coffeeClean ( coffeeClean@infosec.pub ) OP
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      To be clear I linked to someone else’s post. I don’t have the Pixel phone.

      • Cyborganism ( cyborganism@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Ah my bad. I thought I read you had a pixel phone.

    • electricprism ( electricprism@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Is that the one that was the confirmed FedOp?

      • Cyborganism ( cyborganism@lemmy.ca ) 
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        What does that mean?

        • electricprism ( electricprism@lemmy.ml ) 
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          One of the “secure” android was a honeypot, can’t remember the name. A false flag, a false beacon , a false sanctuary.

  • noxfriend ( noxfriend@beehaw.org ) 
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    Why can I not find that post on beehaw? Some ActivityPub weirdness?

    • coffeeClean ( coffeeClean@infosec.pub ) OP
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      beehaw.org defederated from lemmy.ml. And I don’t blame them. I actually try not to post to lemmy.ml or any of the Cloudflare-centralized nodes (lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works, lemm.ee, etc) but it slipped my mind when I posted here.

      (edit) sorry, i’m confused. I thought beehaw.org defederated from lemmy.ml, but both the post herein and the original are on lemmy.ml yet you can reach this one. So I’m missing something. I wonder if you are able to see infosec.pub-mirrored content and maybe the original community has no infosec subscribers? hard to say.

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