But W.V. believes his daughter “is vulnerable and is not competent to make the decision to take her own life,” according to Feasby’s summary of the father’s position.
“He says that she is generally healthy and believes that her physical symptoms, to the extent that she has any, result from undiagnosed psychological conditions.”
Her only known diagnoses described in court earlier this month are autism and ADHD.
- nocturne ( @nokturne213@sopuli.xyz ) 40•6 months ago
I lost my first born to suicide 10 years ago. It was their 6th known attempt in 7 months. We were doing everything we could to help them. The only thing i would have done differently is been there to hold their hand and say goodbye. We knew it was going to happen, it was a matter of how and when.
- TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him) ( @TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social ) English16•6 months ago
I know it probably doesn’t mean much from an internet stranger, but I’m sorry for your loss. I couldn’t imagine that kind of pain, since you never expect them to go before you. 😢 Thank you for sharing your story.
- nyan ( @nyan@lemmy.cafe ) English29•6 months ago
He has no idea what her life is like from the inside or what degree of suffering she may be experiencing, because he is not her. All he knows is that her opting for MAID will cause him suffering.
If she’s competent to manage her own finances and legal affairs, she’s also competent to make this decision. Either she is an independent adult, or she is not. There’s no halfway.
- YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH ( @YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub ) 25•6 months ago
My wife has an illness that sounds similar (I’m her full time caregiver, unfortunately). We get this “it is all in your head” bullshit all the time. But I see my wife suffer unbelievably every day. Fuck this father.
And everyone should have the right to do as they wish with their own body.
- TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him) ( @TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social ) English9•6 months ago
She is 27 and still living at home where the article describes the dad as her caretaker. She has both an autism and ADHD diagnosis, but Dad thinks all her physical symptoms derive from her making them up, because he believes her to have an undiagnosed mental illness. I’m just one person that believes they are on the spectrum (with ADHD), but physical symptoms are real. Having a caretaker that refuses to believe you is not going to make for a great life. Especially depending on your symptoms, which again because she is 27 and still at home with a parental caretaker, I’m guessing that they are pretty involved.
Also, these are often both genetic and passed down from a parent, so where is mom in this scenario? And might that also be playing a part in this?
Anyhoo, my 2 cents.
- John_McMurray ( @John_McMurray@lemmy.ca ) 6•6 months ago
Yeah, you clearly understand the situation better than her fucking parents, from the shitty news stories.
- eezeebee ( @eezeebee@lemmy.ca ) English9•6 months ago
Chill out, this isn’t reddit
- TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him) ( @TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social ) English8•6 months ago
Not to completely shit on dad here either, it could well be that he is also on the spectrum and has lived in an environment that has instilled in him that you just ignore your needs because that makes you “normal”. That is why I was wondering about mom, as it is more than likely one of them is on the spectrum also and perhaps just never diagnosed and their child being diagnosed has unlocked some shit.
Anyways I’m not a psychiatrist, just going through my own adult realization of things, and it’s not easy.
- Maeve ( @Maeve@kbin.social ) 2•6 months ago
Dad could be exacerbating symptoms.
- FfaerieOxide ( @FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ) 9•6 months ago
MAID can’t be consensual under capitalism, but all beings which exist have an inherent right to end their own existence whenever they decide to.
This wouldn’t be a discussion if a 27 year old shot themself, huffed an asphyxiant, or jumped off something high.
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 7•6 months ago
What in the world has capitalism to do with this?
- Goodtoknow ( @Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca ) 12•6 months ago
Because if you’re not working 40+ hour work weeks (which is new in our physiology coming from pre industrial average of 15 hour work weeks) then you’re made to feel inferior and less worthwhile under capitalism. This disproportionately effects those with disabilities.
- Maeve ( @Maeve@kbin.social ) 4•6 months ago
Especially when it takes more than 40 hours to “earn” a living.
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 1•6 months ago
Oh come on, don’t tell me you believe that nonsense? Please don’t. Compared to pre industrial humans, we live better than kings, and we work probably more like half less than they had to.
Yes, there are issues with current capitalism, but you’re taking about a fantasy world. How the hell do you think people worked the land before tractors and machinery? How much do you think they got off the land, compared to modern farmers? Howuch time do you think they had to spend on luxuries?
Seriously, give your comment just 10 seconds of actual thought.
You are parrotting dumb slogans and empty claims that you either read somewhere and just copied without actually using your brain, or you made it up. I’m not sure which, but both are bad.
How about you read up on some actual history? Life pre industrial age was hell bd then you die. During industrial age it was shit. With the enlightenment things slowly became better and where we are right now is the point where we have forgotten what it really is to suffer, so we make crpa up put how bad we have it.
Hint: there are many issues, but dude, you don’t have it that bad
- FfaerieOxide ( @FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ) 2•6 months ago
Compared to pre industrial humans, we live better than kings, and we work probably more like half less than they had to.
And yet with more than enough food to feed everyone and 30 times as many vacant homes per unhoused person, people still starve and die of exposure on the streets.
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 1•6 months ago
Uh huh, that’s correct, and that is very bad and need to be fixed.
What doesn’t happen anymore though is that 90+% of the population was continuously semi starving. What doesn’t happen anymore is 30+% of the population being wiped out from diseases. What doesn’t happen anymore is families having 12 kids so that 4 might make it to adulthood.
I can go on for a bit, but suffice to say that life now is a hundred times better than life 200 years ago, even for the poor, hell, even for the homeless. Even the homeless still get some form of hospital care and food.
Yes, there are still hundreds of problems that need to be resolved, that doesn’t mean that today were off worse than back then
- FfaerieOxide ( @FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ) 2•6 months ago
Why do you assume people arguing (correctly) against the evils of capitalism want to go back to say feudalism and not progress toward a just system that respects universal human dignity and does not require human suffering to grease the wheels of machinery which lines a tiny % of pockets?
- Goodtoknow ( @Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca ) 1•6 months ago
Bingo.
- corsicanguppy ( @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ) 1•6 months ago
Compared to pre industrial humans, we live better than kings
people still starve and die
Your entire argument is a false comparison between “we live better than medieval peasants” and “but people are still homeless”?
You’ve heard the saying that “perfection is the enemy of progress”, right?
- FfaerieOxide ( @FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ) 1•6 months ago
“perfection is the enemy of progress”, right?
Isn’t there a difference between people starving when there isn’t enough food and having more than enough food you allow to rot so a small percentage of people can live as kings?
You get how that is different, right?
How many people dying while there are resources to prevent their dying is too many?
Are unhoused people an acceptable sacrifice to Mammon in your view?
- FfaerieOxide ( @FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ) 5•6 months ago
What in the world has capitalism to do with this?
Nothing can be consensual under a system which privatizes the means of life and coerces behavior to attain access to natural resources everyone needs and no one made.
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 2•6 months ago
That… Is a collection of slogans mixed with impressive mental gymnastics. You put down words but it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. You have no idea how euthanasia works, or the justice system, or capitalism, and at this point I wonder what you do know.
You almost sound like an AI bot, am I talking with an AI bot?
- FfaerieOxide ( @FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ) 2•6 months ago
it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.
I could forward you some reading if you’d like to be less ignorant, though I have my doubts you desire to be.
You almost sound like an AI bot, am I talking with an AI bot?
If you can’t tell it sounds like I’ve passed the Turing, at least.
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 1•6 months ago
Oohh, you read das Kapital, why didn’t you say so? This of course means that you’re totally right in every subject, can do no wrong, even though what your saying is at best a non sequitur.
- FfaerieOxide ( @FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ) 1•6 months ago
Oohh, you read das Kapital
Where did I say I’ve read Das Kapital? Das Kapital isn’t even the book I linked you.
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 1•6 months ago
< click link >
Marx’s Das Kapital for beginners
- corsicanguppy ( @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ) 5•6 months ago
That’s the true choice here: we allow someone to end it cleanly, or we must accept they’ll end their own life messily and brutally.
You can’t get organ donations from a OD or a traumatic impact.