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TL;DR there was a backdoor found in the XZ program. All major distros have been updated but it is recommended that you do a fresh install on systems that are exposed to the internet and that had the bad version of the program. Only upstream distros were affected.
herrcaptain ( @herrcaptain@lemmy.ca ) 81•3 months agostable release of Arch Linux is also affected. That distribution, however, isn’t used in production systems.
Don’t tell me how to live my life, Ars Technica.
oo1 ( @oo1@kbin.social ) 26•3 months ago“stable” release of Arch?
herrcaptain ( @herrcaptain@lemmy.ca ) 26•3 months agoThey mean a variant you use in a stable, like to run an automatic feeder for horses. According to Ars Technica, however, you are not to use it in your production stable.
oo1 ( @oo1@kbin.social ) 9•3 months agoYeah, screw em. I use mine to produce lots of stuff.
I try to avoid producing too much manure though.I think lots of IT people have an extremely limited experience of what it is to produce something.
I mean if opening a ssh hole to the whole world to fuck with is an important part of what they consider “production” - well I’m not really into those types of websites.
Vegoon ( @Vegoon@feddit.de ) 19•3 months agoI am not deep enough in it, but from the arch-announce mailinglist:
From the upstream report [1]:
openssh does not directly use liblzma. However debian and several other distributions patch openssh to support systemd notification, and libsystemd does depend on lzma.
Arch does not directly link openssh to liblzma, and thus this attack vector is not possible. You can confirm this by issuing the following command:
$(command -v sshd)
However, out of an abundance of caution, we advise users to remove the malicious code from their system by upgrading either way. This is because other yet-to-be discovered methods to exploit the backdoor could exist.
You should not run Arch in production. Boom, I said it
herrcaptain ( @herrcaptain@lemmy.ca ) 25•3 months agoWell I don’t see any cops.
eveninghere ( @eveninghere@beehaw.org ) 5•3 months agoArs Technica sounds like a weirdo to me these days. Loves to attack big techs (although understandable), now adds this to their description of Arch.
poVoq ( @poVoq@slrpnk.net ) 28•3 months agoThis was basically a lucky catch. Sadly makes you wonder how many backdoors like that have not been found (yet). Never the less the distro model of not feeding in upstream binaries directly is an important part of the multi-barrier security.
One still could hide something in source code. I think we need to just be more security aware in general. Having source code isn’t useful if someone deliberately put a security hole in it
0xtero ( @0xtero@beehaw.org ) 26•3 months agoCatching this now is pretty huge, because it mainly targets distro build systems. Had this gone undetected, we’d be in shiznit creek couple of years down the line.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Researchers have found a malicious backdoor in a compression tool that made its way into widely used Linux distributions, including those from Red Hat and Debian.
An update the following day included a malicious install script that injected itself into functions used by sshd, the binary file that makes SSH work.
So-called GIT code available in repositories aren’t affected, although they do contain second-stage artifacts allowing the injection during the build time.
In the event the obfuscated code introduced on February 23 is present, the artifacts in the GIT version allow the backdoor to operate.
“This could break build scripts and test pipelines that expect specific output from Valgrind in order to pass,” the person warned, from an account that was created the same day.
The malicious versions, researchers said, intentionally interfere with authentication performed by SSH, a commonly used protocol for connecting remotely to systems.
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claudiom ( @claudiom@blendit.bsd.cafe ) 8•3 months agoFor those on Android running Termux, it is also affected. Just checked my version of xz-utils and it was 5.6.1. Running “pkg upgrade” will roll back to version 5.4.5 (tagged as “5.6.1+really5.4.5” for both liblzma and xz-utils packages).
Makes you wonder why Termux ships the latest stuff. It might be smart to allow more time for critical problems to get caught.
Jay🚩 ( @jaypatelani@lemmy.ml ) 6•3 months agoMeanwhile non SystemD systems like NetBSD FreeBSD OpenBSD are safer.
exscape ( @exscape@kbin.social ) 14•3 months agoWhat does this have to do with systemd? Aren’t they safer in this situation because they aren’t using the beta xz release?
My systems running Debian stable with systemd also aren’t affected…
mister_monster ( @mister_monster@monero.town ) English11•3 months agoThis particular backdoor affects sshd on systems that use libsystemd for logging.
your Debian system is probably not affected because Debian stable doesn’t update packages very quickly. You’re probably on an older release of the backdoored package.
crispy_kilt ( @crispy_kilt@feddit.de ) 1•3 months agoYou’re probably on an older release of the backdoored package.
Nope, Debian uses a version from before the backdoor
ebits21 ( @ebits21@lemmy.ca ) English12•3 months agoYou can have a nefarious developer working for a nation state infiltrate the supply chain for ANY OS.
You don’t know.
Jay🚩 ( @jaypatelani@lemmy.ml ) 4•3 months agoAgreed
That is not really true. If anything they would be easier to infiltrate
mister_monster ( @mister_monster@monero.town ) English2•3 months agoWhat’s Wayland support for the BSDs like?
Hellfire103 ( @hellfire103@lemmy.ca ) English4•3 months agoJust makes you wonder what else (if anything) is backdoored. I am seriously 🤏 this close to just switching all of my boxes over to OpenBSD.
The last time someone over there was approached about backdooring a related piece of software (which they refused), the OpenBSD devs manually screened the entire codebase, just in case something got in.
Really, the only things I’d miss would be Minecraft, KDE, and Mullvad Browser; and of course I’d have to buy a couple more WiFi dongles (or learn how to port drivers from Linux).
I honestly think BSD has the potential to be worse due lack of people. I think the best option is to not be paranoid as a user. If someone needs to be paranoid it is the maintainers.