I am not an atheist, I genuinely believe that God exists and he is evil, like a toddler who fries little ants with a lens.
- jmcs ( @jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de ) 95•6 months ago
Yes. It’s Dystheism.
- some_guy ( @some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ) 12•6 months ago
Dystheism
TIL
- leadore ( @leadore@kbin.social ) 59•6 months ago
I’ve always said (jokingly since I’m an atheist) that Christians got it mixed up and thought Satan was God, so they’ve really been worshiping Satan all this time. They don’t want to admit they’re wrong about him being good, so they make up all kinds of excuses for all the horrible things he does. That’s why they were totally conditioned and ready to do the same with trump.
- HobbitFoot ( @HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ) English17•6 months ago
No, Satan is just a being created by God who realized how fucked up God is.
Of course, the issue with God is that its presence equates power with morality, which makes people think Trump is a moral man.
- evatronic ( @evatronic@lemm.ee ) English8•6 months ago
The Christian god is just a spurned lover who wrote in their diary about how stupid and mean their ex is and they should never have dumped him.
Satan is the dumper and has moved on long ago.
- juliebean ( @juliebean@lemm.ee ) 41•6 months ago
the term i always heard was maltheism. reading the other comments though, i’m surprised how many other terms there are for this.
fun fact: renowned mathematician Paul Erdős referred to God as the SF, or Supreme Fascist, who kept all the best mathematical proofs to himself.
- CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 6•6 months ago
Erdos was fucking weird, lol.
- ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝 ( @Emperor@feddit.uk ) English31•6 months ago
I genuinely believe that God exists and he is evil, like a toddler who fries little ants with a lens.
That could describe the Demiurge in Gnosticism.
- Rivalarrival ( @Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ) English5•6 months ago
- melpomenesclevage ( @melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee ) 27•6 months ago
Misotheism.
Miso as in misogyny, misandry, etc. Not as in the delicious fermented paste that makes a lovely soup.
Its ‘god(s) exist(s) and can absolutely go fuck itself/themselves, possibly for the following reasons…’
- Snot Flickerman ( @SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English22•6 months ago
- MajorMajormajormajor ( @MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca ) 8•6 months ago
Shit, now there’s a religion I could get behind!
- EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted ( @EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English22•6 months ago
Yes, it is called Heresy.
For there is but one god and he is mighty.
IN HIS NAME WE SHALL PURGE THE UNCLEAN.
ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY GOD-EMPEROR
FOR GLORY AND FOR TERRA
- Fleppensteyn ( @Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl ) 20•6 months ago
God is unreasonable and scary when you are a Christian, at least for me when I grew up. You’re basically told he can read your mind so you pretend he’s a great guy, but to me an evil God is just Christianity.
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English14•6 months ago
The philosophers religion.
This is definitely some shit Nietzsche would crack up high as fuck on opium. Hell im pretty sure he did.
also, if we’re going by traditional religious figures. Satanism. Though modern satanism is very different. I would argue that this is more accurately described as “christian satanism” or “christo-satanism”
- Gluten6970 ( @Gluten6970@lemm.ee ) 0•6 months ago
This is definitely some shit Nietzsche would crack up high as fuck on opium. Hell im pretty sure he did
He said the opposite and very clearly mourns the decline in religion throughout his works. You should probably read the material before making wacko statements like this.
“God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?” -Friedrich Nietzsche
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English0•6 months ago
Nietzsche is a character. Man has done a lot of things in his life. You can basically interpret everything he said in numerous ways. I was mostly pointing out that Nietzsche was probably the most apt example given this scenario. op literally said “like a toddler who fries little ants with a lens”
Anyway, i found the philosopher in the comments, my point was made.
- Gluten6970 ( @Gluten6970@lemm.ee ) 0•6 months ago
I read his material for a class in high school over 10 years ago. His material is hardly up to interpretation, as are most philosophical works, as he had very specific ideas about the world. That argument ends up becoming a slippery slope to “anything can be misconstrued.” And if that’s the case, it doesn’t mean writers don’t have a specific intent behind their words. The main point is that Nietzsche was a religious man and anti-nihilist which a lot of people seem to conveniently gloss over as a result of not actually reading anything he’s said.
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•6 months ago
dude even the fucking nazis used nietzsches shit. To argue that it “CANNOT” be misconstrued is probably one of the fucking statements of all time.
- Queen HawlSera ( @HawlSera@lemm.ee ) English14•6 months ago
Some forms of gnosticism say this
- intensely_human ( @intensely_human@lemm.ee ) 8•6 months ago
The term you’re looking for is Evilgodism
- shrugal ( @shrugal@lemm.ee ) 7•6 months ago
Isn’t the god supposed to define what good and evil even is, and wouldn’t therefore any monotheistic god be “good” by definition?!
- Lemmeenym ( @Lemmeenym@lemm.ee ) English11•6 months ago
Socrates answered this. If morality is objective or has an objective basis then it is necessarily independent from any God or god’s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro_dilemma
Edit to add: If you’re interested in the concept of an evil God in the context of Christian beliefs I recommend reading “Answer to Job” by Carl Jung. He doesn’t exactly make the Christian God evil but ascribes moral failings to God and frames Jesus as the redemption of God instead of the redemption of man.
- AndrasKrigare ( @AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org ) 8•6 months ago
Neither of those are necessarily true. For an Abrahamic god, sure, but one can certainly conceive of a god that doesn’t define good and evil, and a god that defines good and evil and doesn’t define itself as good.
- shrugal ( @shrugal@lemm.ee ) 2•6 months ago
I don’t think I would even call a being like that “god”, more like “evil spirit” or something.
- AndrasKrigare ( @AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org ) 2•6 months ago
These things aren’t well-defined, so you’re certainly welcome to, but I think most people would consider an omniscient, omnipotent creator of the universe to be a god and not a spirit.
- dudinax ( @dudinax@programming.dev ) 6•6 months ago
That’s what people say, but in practice people have their own ideas and just project them on to god.
- Ephera ( @Ephera@lemmy.ml ) 5•6 months ago
Somewhat off-topic, but there’s this line of thought, which multiple Christian thinkers have come up with throughout the centuries, called the Ontological Argument. It basically tries to prove the existence of the Christian God with only pure logic, no axioms involved.
Proofs without axioms don’t exist elsewhere, so take the following with a massive grain of salt, but basically it goes:
God is a maximally good being. Existence of a maximally good being is itself good. Therefore, God must exist.
Aside from this being circular reasoning, it also involves a massive axiom: The existence and definition of good vs. bad.
But with your point, we can advance the argument even further:
Defining what’s good is good.
That way, we get twice the circular reasoning, but no axioms anymore. 🙃
- Granite ( @Granite@kbin.social ) 7•6 months ago
Misothiest is the term I heard.
- sping ( @sping@lemmy.sdf.org ) English2•6 months ago
Yet the first words there say
Misotheism is the “hatred of God”
so that’s a different thing.
- onlooker ( @onlooker@lemmy.ml ) 1•6 months ago
How about Divine Misanthropy?
- nooneescapesthelaw ( @nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz ) 4•6 months ago
Blasphemy?
- CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 4•6 months ago
So many things are blasphemy to someone. More specific please.
- UntouchedWagons ( @UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca ) English4•6 months ago
Maybe apatheism?