- Jakra ( @Jakra@aussie.zone ) 122•7 months ago
If only we had the technology to predict solar eclipses!
- qprimed ( @qprimed@lemmy.ml ) English98•7 months ago
had to look this idiot up and to the surprise of nobody… he’s a right wing fossil fuel shill.
"…And now they are going after agriculture and of course, denim, which is cotton. Cotton also is deeply rooted in Jim Crow and racism, so that’s another reason to get rid of cotton. But also they want to get rid of cotton in denim because everything causes climate change until they just eliminate people writ large. And then there’ll be no more climate change when we’re all dead, which we may be from the eclipse in a couple of hours. Who knows? When we’re all dead, there’ll be no more climate worries.”
this is the sewerage that seems to flow from his brain.
Yeah, the “PTF” at the end of his username stands for “Power The Future”, the name of his special interest group, which is doublespeak for “do everything possible to avoid acknowledging the climate crisis and the role fossil fuels have played in getting us here.”
- Dessalines ( @dessalines@lemmy.ml ) 3•7 months ago
I guess the sun coming up tomorrow isn’t guaranteed for him since he’s all-in on fossil fuels that will destroy the planet anyway.
- Jaysyn ( @Jaysyn@kbin.social ) 3•7 months ago
That should be in an encyclopedia as an example of a strawman argument.
- ivanafterall ( @ivanafterall@kbin.social ) 2•7 months ago
Wooooow.
- roguetrick ( @roguetrick@kbin.social ) 1•7 months ago
I doubt anyone’s paying him to write that sort of nonsense.
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•7 months ago
also hot take: denim is just a shit product.
It’s the modern era, im sure we can produce MUCH more resilient fabrics and cloth items than denim.
- Honytawk ( @Honytawk@lemmy.zip ) 65•7 months ago
Meaning solar energy produces 30 gigawats per 2 minutes?
Not bad, should build even more.
- BakerBagel ( @BakerBagel@midwest.social ) 22•7 months ago
And that’s just a narrow stretch of the country that received the solar eclipse!
- lurker2718 ( @lurker2718@lemmings.world ) 1•7 months ago
When there is only 50% totality, photovoltaic also makes 50% less. You just do not notice it when looking around, because your eyes adjust to the changed brightness. So a photovoltaic produces less for a longer time. What I found, for the 2017 eclipse, was that around 16GW were impacted with at most a reduction of 5GW in one moment.
- psud ( @psud@aussie.zone ) 1•7 months ago
He may be counting the 1 kW per square metre of sunlight that reaches the ground, not just the fraction we turn to electricity
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English38•7 months ago
and im sure the US loses even more grid production capacity when it’s flooded due to the inevitable warming of the ocean too huh?
- loopgru ( @loopgru@slrpnk.net ) 34•7 months ago
Best part here is that it’s a nonsense statement. Generated electricity is measured in watt hours (be they kilowatt, megawatt, or gigawatt).
- PapaStevesy ( @PapaStevesy@midwest.social ) English2•7 months ago
Also, you can’t lose what you don’t have.
- stevedidwhat_infosec ( @stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub ) 34•7 months ago
implementation which works 99.99% of the time
Republicans: “It’s broken and bad”
stand for nothing.
- cron ( @cron@feddit.de ) 21•7 months ago
Wait until he discovery day and night.
- FewerWheels ( @FewerWheels@mander.xyz ) 31•7 months ago
Watts are a unit of power, not a unit of energy. The claim is nonsense to the core.
- Photon ( @Photon@feddit.de ) 3•7 months ago
I have no idea about the actual number, but saying the power is decreased by 30 GW does make sense, though… Of course it is not energy, but they might not have meant “solar energy” in the sense of a physical quantity. The sentiment is bullshit of course.
- Natanael ( @Natanael@slrpnk.net ) 4•7 months ago
But even then only for a few minutes at each solar energy plant
- Photon ( @Photon@feddit.de ) 4•7 months ago
Sure. It is an effect that has been taken into account by government agencies and grid operators, though: https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61743
The good thing is you can predict it extremely accurately, probably much better than cloud cover…
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English2•7 months ago
ok so technically, a watt is directly convertable to a joule, which is a unit of energy. So he isn’t wrong. But he is also wrong because he is using name plate production capacity, rather than the total produced capacity, that or he is simply fucking up the numbers. But lets be honest, homie is NOT doing the math.
- FewerWheels ( @FewerWheels@mander.xyz ) 13•7 months ago
A watt is a joule per second. It is not “directly convertable” any more than mile is the not a speed just because you can divide it by an hour.
Watts are power, the rate at which you can work. Joules are units of energy, how much work you can do.
He is not fucking up the numbers. He is fucking up the units…and so are you
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•7 months ago
in this scenario it wouldn’t be speed, though, it would be speed over time. Speed is velocity.
Watts are just joules but arbitrarily defined. Joules are a unit of total energy. A collective amount of work potential. Watts are an in situ measurement of those joules doing work.
If we want to talk about confusing units, W and VA are the units to be talking about.
- FewerWheels ( @FewerWheels@mander.xyz ) 3•7 months ago
A watt is a joule per second. It is not “directly convertable” any more than mile is the not a speed just because you can divide it by an hour.
Watts are power, the rate at which you can work. Joules are units of energy, how much work you can do.
He is not fucking up the numbers. He is fucking up the units…and so are you.
- slurpeesoforion ( @slurpeesoforion@startrek.website ) 30•7 months ago
I missed out on about 5kwh. Guess I’ll start pulling the panels off the roof now.
- Belgdore ( @Belgdore@lemm.ee ) 20•7 months ago
This is unironically the standard corporate response to any temporary slowing of growth.
- slurpeesoforion ( @slurpeesoforion@startrek.website ) 6•7 months ago
Why wouldn’t it be? They already took the subsidy and got the green washing. They can switch back to the grid and move it to the expense line on the P&L. And sell the hardware to recoup the difference in cost the subsidy didn’t cover.
You can’t just wait for government funds to come to you. You have to take it before your competition does. And if you exhaust the funds before they or anyone else can take advantage, you look better to the market. Stock price go up.
- Conyak ( @Conyak@lemmy.tf ) English25•7 months ago
Perhaps someone should tell this dickhead about all of the land the US will lose due to carbon emissions from coal power. Or maybe mention the continuing increase in business insurance due to the same thing. If we are going to point out the adverse effects of solar we should point out the adverse affects of coal.
- dumbass ( @dumbass@lemy.lol ) English11•7 months ago
- melpomenesclevage ( @melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee ) 7•7 months ago
Also the incredibly long supply lines that go to fossil fuel plants. Solar panels aren’t as green as we like to think, but they’re rugged as fuck and require 0 infrastructure to produce power. Most of the maintenance is wiping them with a damp sponge¹, and (these ghouls should love this part) zero non-maintenance labor to operate, no moving parts, and they work best during peak demand times, right? If I were powering my Last Redoubt, solar would be up there on my list of options until the sun dies.
¹i know, hyperbole, but not much of it
- /home/pineapplelover ( @pineapplelover@lemm.ee ) 23•7 months ago
Wind energy? Hydro energy? Nuclear energy? There’s like more ways to get energy.
I also don’t know if this guy is pointing out that the sun gives us so much energy, so we should use it more or that the sun could be covered sometimes rendering it useless.
- Ech ( @ech@lemm.ee ) English13•7 months ago
Definitely the latter. His bad faith argument is meant to discredit an alternative energy source.
- BeigeAgenda ( @BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca ) 23•7 months ago
30GW out of how much Daniel? We need some proper stats from Koch’s mouthpiece.
- DavidGarcia ( @DavidGarcia@feddit.nl ) 20•7 months ago
the only solution is that we blow up the moon
- 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️ ( @Kolanaki@yiffit.net ) English6•7 months ago
Just carve a hole in it so that the sun shines through even during an eclipse. Heck, have fun with it and make it a smiley face so you can see the Man in the Moon better during an eclipse.
- harrys_balzac ( @harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 1•7 months ago
Can we tell everyone that Jesus said they need to go to moon first?
- Rozaŭtuno ( @Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 19•7 months ago
Yes, Daniel, a few minutes of eclipse happening every couple years renders solar completely useless. Let’s just keep burning the dead dinosaur juice.
- Perfide ( @Perfide@reddthat.com ) 13•7 months ago
Flip the script around, and what this tells us is that within the very narrow path of totality, 30 gigawatts of solar power is produced within minutes. That’s a decent amount of power, very quickly, for basically free. Plus all the other solar power still being produced outside the area in totality.
Gets even more ridiculous when you factor in all the solar power that will be produced within just that same path by time the next eclipse hits us in 20 years. If a couple minutes of losing sunlight is 30 gigawatts, 20 years of having sunlight is multiple millions of gigawatts produced. I think we can just scrape the lost 30 off the top of those millions and call it good.
- photonic_sorcerer ( @photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•7 months ago
If only what that corpo shill said was accurate
- Annoyed_🦀 ( @Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc ) 13•7 months ago
If only human invent a way to store electricity. 🤔
- jonne ( @jonne@infosec.pub ) 9•7 months ago
Or even just transport it over large distances. Oh well, guess we’ll just be stuck using candles forever.