Update, yes there are snipers:
We’re so different from those godless immoral Chinese communists, something like Tianenman Square would never happen here.
Lol.
Lmao, even.
Let’s try this again without the Tiananmen Square Massacre copy pasta, at the explicit request of “seahorse” the Midwest social owner:
The difference between the two is that there was no weapon here. You can’t even make out what’s in front of the dude in black but most everyone here took a Twitter post as fact.
The Tiananmen Square massacre, on the other hand, did happen and did kill people. That’s the difference here.
I responded to the comment with the copypasta. Anyway, the point isn’t China good, the point is making fun of all the people in the US that screech about Chinese authoritarianism like we haven’t been captured by our own stupid fucking brand of authoritarianism.
We can keep that chain here one sec [edited]
I definitely agree, I’m all for ACAB. I was just making the express observation (prior to my comment being deleted by the owner) that, this is not one of those cases.
If we aren’t fair, reasonable, and dead honest on these points in our protests, they won’t be taken seriously. And when protests aren’t take seriously things get dangerous, and I don’t want to see legitimate protest against the police state turn into damnation or terrorism charges, more than they already are.
Thanks for being civil and having a conversation about this
“The difference between the two is that there was no weapon here.”
Source?
Edit: downvoting someone for asking to provide source for your claim. Guess we’re cool with making stuff up. To those interested: look into how Russia was caught with their Facebook farms setup in Africa to sow disinformation ahead of the 2016 election season.
I won’t feel bad for asking for legitimate source information.
It does look like the top right of the banner in the OP
Agreed, but I still want to know what the source is.
I’ve also come to learn about marksman which are basically cops setup at major events with lots of people to prevent suicide bombers
Now that’s a double edged sword, especially because of, well all that the police have been doing since, well the beginning it would seem. I can’t trust a cop to do a routine traffic stop without shooting someone, I certainly would be concerned about one with a sniper at a high-stress/high movement event like this.
I can definitely see this being real now, but I’m not sure if I agree with it or not - I agree that a terrorist attack at an event like this would be devastating and I wouldn’t want that to happen either, but I don’t trust that the police are being trained appropriately or being audited/actioned on appropriately.
Ultimately my shitty initial tone and attitude were what bit me in the ass in this thread, despite just trying to get confirmation on the information from an appropriate source, so I’m just going to leave well enough alone now.
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Uh, okay. I see what you’re playing at here, yeah, Tianenman Square happened, but that doesn’t mean that the US is then free and clear. We have a similar spirit of authoritarianism with a strong national myth about how it’s okay for us because we’re the “good guys” (spoiler alert).
More to the point, we have a militarized police force that aggressively puts down any meaningful protest. Our police regularly kill, maim, and brutalize people for no other reason than to put them in their place. My point isn’t China good, my point is making fun of all the people who hand-wring about China and communism while we already live under a not-so-different dumbfuck authoritarianism ourselves.
I definitely agree, I’m all for ACAB. I was just making the express observation (prior to my comment being deleted by the owner) that, this is not one of those cases.
If we aren’t fair, reasonable, and dead honest on these points in our protests, they won’t be taken seriously. And when protests aren’t take seriously things get dangerous, and I don’t want to see legitimate protest against the police state turn into damnation or terrorism charges, more than they already are.
Thanks for being civil and having a conversation about this
Remember that US intelligence services speculated in using snipers to kill “Occupy Wall Street” protesters on university campuses.
FBI coordinated with banks and universities to get information on students.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy
But don’t worry guys! The first amendment guarantees a right to assemble. The police wouldn’t ever do anything to infringe on our rights! If they were to do it, I’m sure there’d be a really sick folk song written about it or something
ACAB
Wtf… Cops in riot gear arresting students before 10pm, and fucking SNIPERS intimidating in a peaceful one night protest on a college campus. And a university spokesperson saying “demonstrators exercised their first amendment right for several hours and then were instructed to disperse” like yeah, that’s enough first amendment right for you guys, go be quiet now.
Nope. Just nope. You are not free. Burn it all to the ground before it’s too late or we’re actually fucked.
I was with you until the “burn it all to the ground”.
If you don’t have something to replace it with, the rich and powerful will simply take advantage of the chaos.
Tear down the bad, but keep the good, and build more good.
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Fucking cowards.
Disinformation post ahead of election season - big shocker.
These aren’t snipers, they’re spotters. You can’t even make out what is in front of the dude in all black.
OPs only response to the closest thing we have to real fact being given was “I don’t buy it”
Seems legit. Toodles.
And now you’re deleting my posts lol. What a joke.
I would have left it if you didn’t spam shit at the bottom
Just because you can’t read Chinese doesn’t mean it was spam.
Industry standard tiananamen square copy pasta that gets Chinese propaganda pushers in trouble with Winnie The Pooh. You realize how this looks for you and this instance right?
I thought you were done. You used the yawn emoji.
Dude, I don’t care
No need to get bent out of shape, was just defending myself and enriching the comment section with more context.
So sorry
K
Look, can we start this over? I don’t like how this played out and I too was getting bent out of shape for what was likely good-intentions.
I’d understand if you were still upset and needed some time yet, totally fine
Lemmy is supposed to be better than Reddit culture, and be more civilized, and I feel like this was a fail here. I’d like to try again and maybe we can have some civil discourse about this if you’re up for it
Ok, I’ll add an edit to the post.
copy pasta that gets Chinese propaganda pushers in trouble with Winnie The Pooh
What parallel universe are libs living in 😭😭
Love the racism there too. Really brings the whole thing together
Where’s the racism
The part of your comment asserting the “asians have yellow skin” stereotype, what else?
Huh? If thats legitimately what people are trying to push as racism, the ignorance is laughable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China
Nothing to do with racism but keep trying to gaslight and push false narratives.
What in the fascist pig hell…
Where do you think the administration got the info that its just spotters from? Cops. The fact that they even called the cops is a red flag.
What the fuck does this have to do with the election?
Where are you getting that information from?
Source?
Why should I believe the university?
Because it’s better than believing an unregulated social media site that’s been proven to pedal disinformation repeatedly??
A platform owned by the richest man in the world who happens to be the son of South African apartheid?
A platform for which he removed fact checking on?
The only picture you have, you can’t even make out what’s in front of them?
Can I ask why you deleted my comment that had the Tiananmen Square Massacre copy pasta?
Because its spammy
Sure. Whatever you say.
This just in: copypasta is not spam
???
The irony of complaining about “disinformation” while spamming disinformation yourself lmao
What part of what I said was disinformation?
If they’re actually snipers, they suck at their job.
Their job is intimidation, so they are succeeding.
Touché
I mean, they’re cops, chances are very high that they suck at their jobs.
If only there was a history class or something on campus…
If OSU is like my campus (dismantling the humanities college in a pro-STEM state), they may not have much of a history department anymore.
Im sure OSU specifically is fine, they have like the 2nd or 3rd largest campus in the country, big 10 school with a ton of funding, multiple highly accredited programs, and many people go there just to say they went to “The” Ohio State Univesity
My God the bootlicking in this thread
Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.
Le sigh… Time for another crosspost to a boring distopia.
Incredible country we live in
Hey keep me out of your circus. Just please don’t drag the rest of the world down with you.
In case anyone wants to see the university’s now removed claim these are not snipers here is the wayback link:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240426123527/https://www.thelantern.com/2024/04/university-confirms-there-are-no-snipers-on-the-ohio-unions-roof/
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We didn’t start the fire It was always burning Since the world’s been turning We didn’t start the fire No, we didn’t light it But we tried to fight it
I guess these guys are always on the rooftops around campus.
