• BolexForSoup ( BolexForSoup@kbin.social ) 
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    There are many issues with this analogy. For starters, the person can choose to date nobody and they aren’t stuck with any guy. “Nobody” is actually a choice. They can also look elsewhere - they have countless immediate, viable options.

    If I choose not to vote, I still get Trump or Biden.

  • alcoholicorn ( alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Dude comes so close, but then blames dem voters instead of the politicians or political system that represents capital ahead of people.

    It’d be one thing if Biden was listening to the base, but he does all this in spite of the dems, not because of them.

    Despite what the republicans say, Biden is not swayed by money (hence why Obama had to pay for his son’s medical procedures) or what anyone tells him, he always does what he knows is right. Unfortunately he has the kind of moral compass that tells you to oppose desegregation and write 100:1 laws.

  • So your imaginary scum, being scum, somehow means that Biden having never remotely done anything like your imaginary scum, is the same as Fat Joffrey who behaves daily like your imaginary scum?? I don’t think this is the “both sides” you’re looking to employ.

  • As others have said, the analogy is wrong, but for different reasons than what I’ve seen.

    A better analogy is an abusive relationship. There’s your partner who beats you regularly. You’re often left bruised. You talk about leaving and the response is ‘the other guy will break your arms, and unless you agree to stay with me, they’re moving in and they will break your arms. I’m still punching you, and there’s no chance I’ll stop, but I’m better than that person.’

    There is a cycle of abuse. Look it up. There’s no way to make an abusive relationship better. There’s very little chance that a person will change while they have power over a victim. Power gives up nothing without a fight.

    The abuser might change, but only after reflection and a loss of power.

  • The analogy kind of falls apart since she is not limited to this guy and Chad. She’s free to choose nothing at all. With Trump vs Biden, there’s no viable third option, and having no president is not one of the options. So the “Trump is worse” argument becomes viable simply because you do have to choose one of them.

    • Using the trolley problem as an analogy, if you don’t pull the lever the people run over by it are not your fault but the trolley company’s, but if you do pull the lever the death of the guy on the other tracks is absolutely on you.

      I assume you voted for Biden last election, to avoid the trolley running over the people in that proverbial track. Congratulations, you are guilty of murdering all those Palestinian children. Now, next election, if (when) Trump wins, your vote even for Biden is what gives legitimacy to his presidency.

      • Kashif Shah ( kashifshah@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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        2 years ago

        After that news on research that a Trump victory would likely spell the end of NATO, don’t be surprised if the rightists starts to see this election as being about ending NATO and withdrawing from the UN.

        Typical right-wing goals that maybe leftists don’t appreciate the strength of conviction that the hard-liners have.

        That (and the obvious social conservative goals) are the only legitimacy that Drumpf really has.

        edit: also, Trump trumped Biden on the Palestenian genocide when he moved the Israeli embassy. i’m sure that that emboldened Netanyahu to press even harder rightwards. Now look at it.