• Fem and woman aren’t synonyms. How else would you describe someone who was AMAB but is librafem, isn’t a woman and even further from being a man, but still has a connection to femininity?

      Lots of transfem people are women, but its sorta like a rectangle and square (all squares are rectangles, but only some rectangles are squares). Practically all trans woman are transfem, but not all transfem people are women.

      • CheesyCheese1 [She/her] ( CheesyCheese1@lemmy.ca ) BannedOP
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        A feminine gender identity is equivalent to womanhood. People who identify as feminine are also women to some extent even if they don’t call themselves women, this is especially true for trans women who are in-denial of their transness (i.e. people who claim to be femboys yet want boobs and pretty faces).

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            It’s nonsensical, a person cannot be both a man and a woman, these things are polar opposites, like being both hot and cold at the same time it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real trans people.

            • “It’s nonsensical, someone AMAB cannot start being a woman, these things are polar opposites, like a square saying it’s a circle, it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real women.”

              Please explain how what you’re saying is any different to the above. Then maybe educate yourself, or at the very least, butt out.

              Your view is not even popular, so don’t say you’re speaking for “us real trans people”.

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                Regarding your “hot and cold” analogy: warm menthol applied to the skin feels hot and cold. In thermodynamics we have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature:

                > A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature.

                If you clarify what you mean by “hot” and “cold”, I’m sure I can find plenty more examples where the real world doesn’t match your simplistic, obstinate understanding.

                • I understand that you feel this way, but do you have a single shred of evidence for your claims? From my perspective, you are indistinguishable from a transphobic bigot – right down to the slurs.

                  But I get where you’re coming from. You’ve suffered a lot to get where you are, and then you see these other people who don’t suffer the way you did and do, who are claiming those labels you fought so hard for.

                  But since when is being trans about suffering?

                  • Hurt people hurt people. You’re lashing out, saying the same thing about others that others say about you.

                    You don’t understand their experiences, therefore their experiences aren’t real. They’re invading trans spaces: they don’t understand that being trans is supposed to be painful and hard, not like you (a real trans person) do.

                    But s/trans/female/, and that sounds just like TERF rhetoric.