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Five ( Five@slrpnk.net )  to EnvironmentEnglish · 2 years ago

Climate activists arrested after spray painting UK’s Stonehenge monument

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Climate activists arrested after spray painting UK’s Stonehenge monument

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Five ( Five@slrpnk.net )  to EnvironmentEnglish · 2 years ago
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UK police say they arrested two people ‘on suspicion of damaging’ the prehistoric UNESCO World Heritage Site.
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  • seathru ( seathru@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    Well. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Now your org gets to pay for cleanup if they don’t just tell the 2 that got arrested “Good luck, you’re on your own now”

    What’s the correlation with Stonehenge and the fossil fuel industry? No one visiting is going to see the vandalism and think “Maybe I should lessen my personal dependence on fossil fuels.”, they’re just going to hear how it was this asshole group that happens to be named ‘Just Stop Oil’. I highly doubt that’s changing anyone’s mind (for the better).

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for activism. Hell, I’m all for destructive activism; Block access to oil wells, sabotage infrastructure (preferably in a way that doesn’t cause more environmental damage in the process), burn down some private jets. But don’t go around being an asshole unrelated to your cause just to get your name out. That’s not helping anything.

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      • Jake Farm ( Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        Are they protesting the specific location of the factory or the concept of factories?

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        “Picking” the lesser of two evils implies there is some kind of exclusive relationship between climate change and vandalism. As if this action had some kind of effect that counters climate change.

        But it doesn’t.

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            Then what are the two evils you’re referring to, and which action are you referring to with picking the lesser evil?

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                Right, that’s what I thought you were referring to, and responded to. Ruining stonehenge versus the climate. Or vandalism generally versus the climate.

                We’re not picking between these things. They’re independent variables.

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    If you’re willing and able to get arrested for the cause then go assault an oil executive. Maybe light his car on fire. Shut down a pipeline. Block a coal train. Etc. I hate to cricize anymore more committed than I am, but I really think this is counter productive. Attack the actual source of the problem. This is like punching your grandma to stop your dad from hitting your mom.

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    Preserve the world by destroying history? Fuck you guys.

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      • Jake Farm ( Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        Do you have an article link?

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          Not OP, but it’s listed as “cornflour” here: https://www.npr.org/2024/06/19/nx-s1-5012595/climate-activists-arrested-stonehenge

          The article links back to a page/post from the group the activists were with, and appears to be the source of the substance identification.

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    And yet the oil execs leaking oil into our water systems get off scot-free.

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    These types of “protestors” are definetly hired by oil execs

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      There were very similar conspiracies popular during the suffragette struggle, the civil rights era, and the gay rights movement. They were all just as embarrassing as this one is now.

      This kind of spectacle activism has a long history of creating political change while minimizing violence. Pigeon-holing these brave people as pawns in some MAGA-style conspiracy de-humanizes them and makes it easier to ignore their serious message.

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        Yea, if you’re going to spectacle protest target the right people, wtf did some English brick do?

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