Beehaw
  • Communities
  • Create Post
  • search
    Search
  • Login
  • Sign Up
 Servais   ( @Servais@dormi.zone )  to [Locked] YUROP@lemm.ee · 2 years ago

The first time I went to Spain I learned that they used a different set of playing cards

files.catbox.moe

message-square
38
link
fedilink
177

The first time I went to Spain I learned that they used a different set of playing cards

files.catbox.moe

 Servais   ( @Servais@dormi.zone )  to [Locked] YUROP@lemm.ee · 2 years ago
message-square
38
link
fedilink
alert-triangle
You must log in or # to comment.
  •  WaterSword   ( @WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    39
    ·
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    Omg! One of my obsessions!!!

    Whenever I travel somewhere, as a souvenir, I buy the local design of playing cards. Even within the colour-regions there are many variations. I might be biased because I’m dutch, but the Dutch Cut is one of my favourites, because of the architecture on the aces!

    In Italy every region has their own design! (Even within the ones shown in this map.)

  •  Canadian_Cabinet   ( @Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    30
    ·
    2 years ago

    This surprised me when I was younger. Heart, diamond, spade, and club seemed so foreign to me. For the record, in Spain we call them copas (cups), oros (coins (literally golds)), bastos (clubs), and espadas (swords).

    Also, the pictures used in the map are not the most commonly used ones here. this (top row) is what most cards use

    •  acockworkorange   ( @acockworkorange@mander.xyz ) 
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      Funny enough, in Portuguese, the names for the sets are dirty direct translations of the Spanish versions, but applied to the French icons. It didn’t make much sense to me calling a losange “golds”, or a heart “cups”, a leaf “swords”, and a clover leaf “sticks”.

      Edit: autocorrupt

    •  federal reverse   ( @federalreverse@feddit.org ) 
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      2 years ago

      You do realize that that “club” is a gherkin, right? :)

      Fwiw, I like all the properly illustrated variants so much better than the French variant that always feels lifeless to me.

      •  Canadian_Cabinet   ( @Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca ) 
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 years ago

        I don’t think so. The other variants of the Spanish-inspired cards are clearly staves. Besides, basto is very, very close to bastón, the word for a staff like a walking stick. Gherkins are called pepinillos

        •  federal reverse   ( @federalreverse@feddit.org ) 
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 years ago

          It was an attempt at a joke. The one version you linked to is green and kind of looks like a gherkin. That’s all.

      •  fah_Q   ( @fah_Q@lemmy.ca ) 
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 years ago

        Looks like you

    •  Servais   ( @Servais@dormi.zone ) OP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 years ago

      Feel free to join !esp@lemm.ee for a Spanish speaking community!

  •  spizzat2   ( @spizzat2@lemm.ee ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    2 years ago

    I heard about this, and I was excited to pick up a different style when I went to Germany. I got there, and all of the cards used the standard, international suits. No one knew what I was talking about.

    •  Lauchmelder   ( @Lauchmelder@feddit.org ) 
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 years ago

      The German suite is most common in east Germany. west Germans use the french deck, or if they’re playing German card games they use the tournament German deck (which is just the french deck with different colours)

      •  barsoap   ( @barsoap@lemm.ee ) 
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        2 years ago

        Not just any colours but the ones of the German deck: Diamonds are orange because bells are orange, and spades are green because leaves are green. Also spades and leaves look almost identical anyway. Hearts are the same, and acorns become clubs.

        And just to be pedantic: It’s not the “tournament deck”, it’s specifically the tournament deck for Skat, adopted when the East and German leagues reunified to avoid confusion. You’ll be hard-pressed to get your hands on a 6 or below in those colours because Skat uses 32 cards.

        I do think it’s a good idea in general, though.

    •  Franconian_Nomad   ( @Franconian_Nomad@feddit.de ) 
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 years ago

      The standard cards are everywhere, but the German variant is still used, at least in bavaria. Just talk with some grandpas in the village restaurants and they will gleefully get their cards out.

    •  adr1an   ( @anzo@programming.dev ) M
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 years ago

      Which standard? There are plenty! ;p

  •  jol   ( @jol@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    Huh. That explains why in Portugal hearts is called “copas”. Also in Portugal diamonds are called “gold”. The design is the French one, but the names stayed the original ones.

    All these designs have the same origin in tarot cards, they just evolved slightly differently.

    •  jol   ( @jol@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 years ago

      Reading more about it, it seems like these are the original Latin suits, and the French tried to, and succeeded, in replacing them.

    •  migo   ( @migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 years ago

      But “sticks” and “swords” are inverted, at least in this table.

      •  jol   ( @jol@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 years ago

        I’m pretty sure this table is incorrect. Swords, spades and cloves are the same. Sticks, clubs, acorns are the same.

  •  Skua   ( @Skua@kbin.earth ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    2 years ago

    Is there a particular reason that the French style is so much more abstract than the others?

    •  The Cuuuuube   ( @Cube6392@beehaw.org ) 
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 years ago

      Cheaper to print in bulk

  •  Scrollone   ( @Scrollone@feddit.it ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    2 years ago

    Italy is not completely correct. The orange area uses the drawing of a club (as in a thick wodden stick), they’re called “bastoni” (“sticks”).

    •  Kabutor   ( @Kabutor@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 years ago

      RavenFellBlade @startrek.website

      Love that the Spanish are using Tarot suits for their standard playing cards.

      The spanish names are copas (cups), oros (gold), espadas(swords) y bastos ( clubs)

  •  ShugarSkull   ( @ShugarSkull@lemm.ee ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    2 years ago

    Actually in France we have both design!

    The second one is rarer but you can see it on the “Tarot de Marseille”

    It’s a different set of cards, in this form there called “lames” (blades) or “arcanes” (arcana)

    The set is divided in 4 colors also called family: “épée” (sword), “coupe” (cup, but think of it as the same type of cup as the saint grail), “bâton” (club) and “denier” (it’s an old coin)

    This compose the 52 “arcanes mineurs”

    In addition there also 22 “arcanes majeurs” called “atouts”

    And it is usually recognize because it’s the base of the Tarot use for divination

    But now it’s generally used to play the eponymous game of “Tarot”, a very good and very old game that me and my friend played a lot at uni

    •  zaphod   ( @zaphod@sopuli.xyz ) 
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 years ago

      And with “both” from what it looks like you mean the french and italian styles.

      •  ShugarSkull   ( @ShugarSkull@lemm.ee ) 
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 years ago

        Yes but also not only, we have MANY more design of tarot card, especially when considering “atouts/arcanes majeurs” as here a deck of tarot is an object of play but also an object of collection

        Here an example

  •  RavenFellBlade   ( @RavenFellBlade@startrek.website ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    2 years ago

    Love that the Spanish are using Tarot suits for their standard playing cards.

  •  _Gandalf_the_Black_   ( @_Gandalf_the_Black_@feddit.de ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    2 years ago

    Curved. Swords.

  •  neidu2   ( @neidu2@feddit.nl ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    2 years ago

    Huh, pretty cool. I live in the blue area, and always thought others used the same type, because that’s what I’ve seen in all the places I’ve been. Is there data available for the rest of the world?

    •  WaterSword   ( @WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      2 years ago

      In latin America spanish style cards are often used, and you might find some southern italian designs with italian-americans. But for the most part the rest of the world uses the standard “french” suits.

      Also, nowadays if you ask for a deck of cards in most of the other places, you’re still likely to get a french-suited deck. Usually the american style (think of your typical bycicle brand card deck).

      When I tried to buy a dutch style deck here in the Netherlands they didn’t even have it at my local board game store! I had to order them online.

      •  neidu2   ( @neidu2@feddit.nl ) 
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 years ago

        There’s a Dutch suit too?? I feel like some island inhabitant who just learned that there’s a whole world out there full of people, planes, porn, and pop culture, after having grown up alone with his coconuts. This is definitely a rabbit hole I need to explore.

        Only Latin American country I’ve been to is Brazil, and at least the deck of cards we had there was French suit.

        •  WaterSword   ( @WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 years ago

          The brazil thing seems logical, since Portugal uses french suited cards too.

        •  WaterSword   ( @WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 years ago

          It’s not it’s own suit, we use french suits. But the design is it’s own thing, yeah!

    •  Servais   ( @Servais@dormi.zone ) OP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      2 years ago

      Found this website that should answer your question: https://www.wopc.co.uk/explore/suits

      •  neidu2   ( @neidu2@feddit.nl ) 
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 years ago

        Thanks, but that URL doesn’t load on my phone, so I’ll check it out on my PC tomorrow. I’m curious if all the countries I’ve visited have used French style.

  •  Foni   ( @Foni@lemm.ee ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    2 years ago

    Not only do we have our own deck, we also have our own games, ask about the mus or the subastado

  •  volvoxvsmarla   ( @volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    2 years ago

    Thank God, I always assumed Germany was the only country with a weird ass set of playing cards

  •  FiniteBanjo   ( @FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    2 years ago

    Everything is fine except for the Itallians.

  •  RandomVideos   ( @RandomVideos@programming.dev ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    2 years ago

    Today i learned that what in romanian is called “black heart” is called spades or pikes in english

  •  Ardor von Heersburg   ( @ardorhb@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    2 years ago

    As a Bavarian I grew up with the German set but I myself prefer the french one. Don’t know why, I guess I just like it‘s style/asthetics more.

    Didn‘t new about the Italian and Spanish ones until today.

[Locked] YUROP@lemm.ee

yurop@lemm.ee

Subscribe from Remote Instance

You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !yurop@lemm.ee
lock
Community locked: only moderators can create posts. You can still comment on posts.

A laid back community for good news, pictures and general discussions among people living in Europe.

Topics that should not be discussed here:

  • European news/politics:
    • !europepolitics@feddit.org
    • !europe@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    • !europe@feddit.org
  • Ukraine war: !ukraine@sopuli.xyz

Other casual communities:

  • !casualuk@feddit.uk
  • !forumlibre@jlai.lu

Language communities

  • !dach@feddit.org
  • !esp@lemm.ee

Cities

  • !barcelona@lemm.ee
  • !london@feddit.uk
  • !paris@jlai.lu

Countries

  • !albania@lemmy.world
  • !austria@feddit.org
  • !belgique@jlai.lu
  • !belgium@lemmy.world
  • !croatia@lemmy.world
  • https://feddit.dk/
  • !deutschland@feddit.org / !germany@feddit.org
  • !eesti@lemm.ee
  • https://lemmy.eus/
  • !finland@sopuli.xyz
  • !france@jlai.lu
  • https://foros.fediverso.gal/
  • !greece@lemmy.world
  • !hungary@lemmy.world
  • Italy: !news@feddit.it
  • !ireland@lemmy.world
  • !northern_ireland@feddit.uk
  • !norway@sopuli.xyz
  • !thenetherlands@feddit.nl
  • Poland: !wiadomosci@szmer.info
  • !portugal@lemmy.pt
  • !romania@feddit.ro
  • !suisse@lemmy.world
  • !sweden@lemmy.world
  • !ukraine@sopuli.xyz
  • !unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
  • !wales@lemm.ee
Visibility: Public
globe

This community can be federated to other instances and be posted/commented in by their users.

  • 2 users / day
  • 2 users / week
  • 1 user / month
  • 1 user / 6 months
  • 7 local subscribers
  • 2.53K subscribers
  • 360 Posts
  • 1.95K Comments
  • Modlog
  • mods:
  •  BoozeOrWater   ( @BoozeOrWater@lemm.ee ) 
  •  adr1an   ( @anzo@programming.dev ) 
  • BE: 0.19.13
  • Modlog
  • Legal
  • Instances
  • Docs
  • Code