Septimaeus ( @Septimaeus@infosec.pub ) 30•8 months agoEdit: review from adjacent thread
There are some shenanigans in this paper so far, like using regional statistics (conservative places) to generalize about very particular sociopolitical cleavages (conservative ideology) and failure to control for, or even acknowledge, more obvious independent variables such as local economy, infrastructure, and socioeconomics.
bane_killgrind ( @bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net ) English14•9 months agoConservative areas are poorer in most of the states, which do have worse health outcomes, so I think they just overtuned and excluded the poors.
I don’t really want to read that garbage to properly rebut it.
BlameThePeacock ( @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ) English29•9 months agoThis is directly contradictory to other super obvious evidence. Like the fact that conservative states have much lower life expectancy.
I think there’s some tomfoolery with this study.
Burstar ( @Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English15•9 months agoThe paper doesn’t even prove that they are healthier due to a greater sense of personal responsibility. It only theorizes this sense of personal responsibility is a possible cause. As others have pointed out the study results could be explained simply by picking conservatives that are upperclass and have more time/energy/money to spend on being healthy.
m0darn ( @m0darn@lemmy.ca ) 4•9 months agoOr stronger notions of what body types are compatible with the gender role they perceive.
Edited to clarify it’s what they perceive as their gender role. Ie the sexist notion that “it’s the duty of a husband to be strong, and the duty of a wife to be dainty”
Catoblepas ( @Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 12•9 months ago“Personality and Individual Differences”? I wonder who publishes that… aaand it’s Elsevier.
joshhsoj1902 ( @joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca ) 5•9 months agoPublish date “2019” ya that makes sense. If this was the case before the pandemic it certainly isn’t anymore.
The methodology of this study isn’t very convincing IMO. Study 1 is irrelevant (self reported subjective data). Study 2 implys that a small sample size picking to use stairs instead of an elevator to go up one floor means one group is more healthy, this is meaningless IMO,. Study 3 just looks at which groups intend on quitting smoking, with the conservative group being more likely to be wanting to quit. I could jump to a number of conclusions from this that have nothing to do with “personal responsibility”.
Overall what a waste of my time.
Edit: I just went and looked at the Reddit comments on this post, they also tore it apart with some decent numbers showing how wrong the this is.
Rentlar ( @Rentlar@lemmy.ca ) 3•9 months agoConservative statistics have a higher level of bullshit because they have a greater sense of fabricating correlations not based on fact.
morphballganon ( @morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com ) English3•9 months agoPersonal responsibility? Responsibility to what, ruin the environment? Ignore pandemics? Cut education funding? That kind of personal responsibility?
🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖 ( @muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee ) English1•9 months agoI wouldnt be surprised tbh.