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America is in danger of Fascism

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db0 ( db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com )  to Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • TheObviousSolution ( TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee ) 
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    Tell me that you don’t know what fascism is without telling me you don’t know what real fascism.

    What the USA has been for a long time is an oligarchy, and there are literal Princeton studies to support it. It’s only now that it’s following Russia into becoming full-fledged dictatorships.

    • 🏴 hamid the villain [he/him] 🏴 ( hamid@vegantheoryclub.org ) 
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      • TheObviousSolution ( TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee ) 
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        The Ku Klux Klan was a tool of the slave owning oligarchs.

        • 🏴 hamid the villain [he/him] 🏴 ( hamid@vegantheoryclub.org ) 
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          • TheObviousSolution ( TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee ) 
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            I would argue it’s fallen out of favor with the preferred organization nowadays being the GQP Trump personality cult. But yes, and they still trade in what slavery basically was, insurmountable debt.

  • naevaTheRat ( naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    brain dead take.

    Always a racist slave state? sure. A military cult since like 1910? sure. A broken oligarchy? sure.

    Fascist? defs heading that way. Not always.

    • 🏴 hamid the villain [he/him] 🏴 ( hamid@vegantheoryclub.org ) 
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      • naevaTheRat ( naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        Which definition of fascism are you applying?

        • 🏴 hamid the villain [he/him] 🏴 ( hamid@vegantheoryclub.org ) 
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          • naevaTheRat ( naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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            yeah fair actually

        • octopus_ink ( octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ) 
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          Not the guy you replied to, but we hit most of Umberto Eco’s points IMO:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism#Umberto_Eco

    • Dwalin ( Dwalin@lemm.ee ) 
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      You clearly don’t know tour hustory.

  • maynarkh ( maynarkh@feddit.nl ) 
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    To be honest, it’s not even the “they came for you” bit, they are just coming for themselves now. I mean, if the orange idiot succeeds in dismantling NATO and imposing sanctions on US trade, China will def be the new leading superpower.

    NATO is what props the dollar up. They are trying to undo the change in foreign relations the US made in WWII, and they will def get back to the pre-WWII US as a result.

    • Diplomjodler ( Diplomjodler@feddit.org ) 
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      Including segregation, no rights for women and no labour rights. Basically back to the days off the robber barons. And the morons will still be blaming the libruls as they lie in their bed, unable to afford a hospital while dying from silicosis.

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    • volodya_ilich ( volodya_ilich@lemm.ee ) 
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      if the orange idiot succeeds in dismantling NATO and imposing sanctions on US trade, China will def be the new leading superpower.

      Don’t get me wrong, I’m not particularly fond of the Chinese government, but it’s HARD for them to become worse than the US in terms of international policy, destabilizing progressive countries, and outright promoting coups against leftist governments. China has no Vietnam carpet bombing history, no Chile or Iran coup support history, no banana-republic support history… If China were to become the new leading superpower, there is definitely much more hope for renewed strength in leftist movements around the globe compared to the current state of affairs

  • atro_city ( atro_city@fedia.io ) 
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    France going the same direction.

  • lulztard ( lulztard@feddit.de ) 
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    Terrorist shithole doing terrorist shithole things. They had a good run for over a hundred years. I hope Trump burns it to the ground.

    • conditional_soup ( conditional_soup@lemm.ee ) 
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      Be me

      Moran (sic)

      “Lmao, when the US collapses, they totally won’t make it everyone’s problem”

      • nondescripthandle ( nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        Imagine it looking like Russia’s collapse if Russia’s military was the most expensive in the world with the among the best logistics, and 800 military bases across 70 countries. That’s about the future of it.

        • volodya_ilich ( volodya_ilich@lemm.ee ) 
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          It’s so funny to me as a European that, to explain evil to US citizens, all you need to do is to swap “US” for “Russia” and suddenly everyone understands

    • mozz ( mozz@mbin.grits.dev ) 
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      Are you under the impression that Trump’s destruction of the US won’t involve him doing 10 times more terroristic things all over the world?

      Or that the powers that will invade the power vacuum left by a US collapse wouldn’t instantly start resuming the exact same terrorism, and worse, that you are (with every righteous reason) opposing when the US is doing it?

      • Transporter Room 3 ( Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website ) Banned
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        He must be in the “but I did nothing, for I was not _____” stage.

        A lot of people seem to be under the impression that if open fascists spouting fascist rhetoric at every opportunity take full control of THE MOST EXPENSIVE MILITARY IN THE WORLD, that it will just self-implode into a nice neat little controlled demolition.

        Lmao that is naive at best. And actually wishing for it is downright stupid. I don’t want Russia to collapse and kill itself, I want the scum leading their politics and militaries to be dealt with in the only manner befitting such filth. Anyone wishing different for the US or Russia, or ANY current or former world superpower that still has massive amounts of sway and firepower, is just wishing for collateral damage.

        When shit hits the fan, it goes everywhere. When their backs are against a wall, they will strike out and take what they want, to hell with the fallout. Possibly literal.

        A sad number of people just go “[large country] bad lol die” like their lives will be unaffected by such a massive global power shift.

        • mozz ( mozz@mbin.grits.dev ) 
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          100% right. It is the temptation for easy solutions.

          Turns out all that was needed to eliminate war and oppression was to pick out one semi-democratic country that’s doing it, and don’t vote in their elections, and bingo! Fascists take over, country collapses, no war and oppression anymore. I am amazed it was so easy the whole time and people were wasting their time with all these other more complicated structures and efforts to get it done.

      • Semjaza ( Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com ) 
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        The US has been continually committing terrorist acts (or enabling them) around the world for at least the last 70 years.

        If the US is collapsing, perhaps they will have to let up a little and focus on its own civil war and take the boot off of the developing world somewhat.

      • commie ( commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        the power vacuum

        power vacuums are fictions created by intelligence agencies to justify propping up regimes. they are not inevitable natural phenomena

      • lulztard ( lulztard@feddit.de ) 
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        Of course the void will be filled by other terrorist nations. But none of them have the power and capabilities of the US. It’s like replacing a shooter with a stabber. Still shit, but less so. Plus, who knows, maybe the EU will finally step up.

  • ToucheGoodSir ( ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol ) 
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    Lol true

  • ILikeBoobies ( ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 
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    This just isn’t true

    • Dwalin ( Dwalin@lemm.ee ) 
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      How so?

      • ILikeBoobies ( ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Their killings of minorities were just run of the mill racism. A bottom up approach if you will

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    thank you

  • UltraGiGaGigantic ( UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee ) 
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    Based

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