So, at school we use the whole Office 365 suite for a myriad of tasks.

Teams is used as the main way to share exercises and lesson material, Outlook is used as the resident email service, and you’re expected to use OneDrive to store all/most of your data. There are some additional apps that require Windows, but beyond the office 365 suite they are all replaceable.

What I’m wondering is, what distro can run/access those apps without too much hassle and set-up?

I’m looking to do this on a HP probook x360, upgraded to 32 GB of ram. The only peripheral of note I’ve got is a Ugee drawing tablet, but I can use the openTabletDriver or their own on some distro’s.


Edit: Thanks guys!

User helpimnotdrowning recommend Mint! This’ll be my first real daily foray onto Linux, so it’s definitely a good option. I’ll also have a look at Gnome Vs KDE. I’ve been looking at KDE in the past, but gnome is definitely worth a peep as well.

User BearOfATime, thanks for giving the software name that allows for a seamless VPN transition! I’ll also look into the win 10 LTSC. Not sure it’s a right fit, but it’s always fun to learn more!

As a couple of you recommend, there seems to be a teams flatpak to download, so I’ll have a look into that!

Finally, I’d like to thank y’all for the useful and helpful answers! Many of you said to try the webapps, so I’ll be doing that! My current plan is to use VMWare (alt is Vbox. VMware works (and looks) better) and try to actively use a mint VM. Not sure If I’ll be able to stick to it, and not unknowingly switch to windows, but having it as a starting app should solve a couple issues. Slower start times, sure, but that’s not the worst. Your advice is very much appreciated! It’s given me a good confidence boost to start. Thanks for that :D

  • 365 admin here. Use whatever distro you want and just use the web versions of Office apps. They’ve been greatly improved and are nearly identical to their desktop counterparts. Especially if you’re leaning heavily into OneDrive/Sharepoint.

  • Personally, I’ve had no problems whatsoever running the Office 365 apps needed by my school on Debian’s version of Firefox ESR. Aside from Outlook and Teams, I’m not asked to use them very often, as most assignments are turned in as PDFs, but when I have been required to use Word and Excel, I have had no problems.

    Apparently GNOME 46 introduced support for Microsoft 365 accounts including OneDrive support in the file manager, so a distro that runs a recent GNOME version, such as Fedora or Ubuntu, may be your best option. But without that, you can still use a third-party project like onedriver or abraunegg’s OneDrive client.

  • I use Fedora 40 workstation (Gnome) , run everything (Outlook, OneDrive, etc.) on browser, Teams as a FlatPak, and use Only Office for Excel, which I then upload to One Drive.

    So far it’s all worked like a charm.

  •  mxl   ( @mxl@lemm.ee ) 
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    I use the web version of all O365 apps, even Teams, and I also have a Windows VM in case I need the desktop apps for whatever reason.

    1. Install the user Flatpak for Teams
    2. Log into your OneDrive online account, use the file manager plugin for the files
    3. Use any mail client you like for the e-mail, Thunderbird for example works fine
    4. Use the web version of Office, sadly
      • In my experience it’s most of the installed version of Word, Excel and PowerPoint. It’s leagues above Google Docs.

        While the web suite is not as feature rich as the installed version or as LibreOffice, I’ve experienced some compatibility issues between LibreOffice and MS Office. (but most importantly, their school requires MS Office)

          • I agree, I actually prefer LibreOffice in most cases, especially Calc. I wouldn’t require a class to all use the same product under the illusion that it’s the only good one.

            That said, I’ve had LibreOffice Writer’s .docx files show different styling when opened by MS Word and vice versa, so in the context of MS Office being required by OP’s school, I recommend MS Office online as I’ve had good experience with that.

  • So I’m confused. Wouldn’t you want Windows? Also outlook can be replaced by Thunderbird.

    So basically I see two options. First, if your device has 4 or more cores and 16gb of ram you can run Windows in KVM. If that isn’t the case you need to pickup another device or not use Linux.

    • I mostly want to switch since it feels better. It’s a first big step into becoming independent from Microsoft, and I don’t like the way they’re going with LLM’s among other things (I.E. totally oblivious of any security issues or broken code until the internet/EU spanks’m for it)

      The main reason though, windows 10 has ShapeCollector.exe to help windows learn your writing style. Windows 11 removed that, and just didn’t replace it with anything. Really irks me that.

      In terms of thunderbird, school needs to grant permission, which I did ask for. Don’t think they’ve granted it though.

  • Office won’t run on Linux or through Wine (AFAIK), I’ve converted to using LibreOffice on both Linux and Windows, which has yet to give me any issues.

    Teams, as part of O365, also doesn’t have a Linux app, however… with the (paid) Thunderbird addon Owl for Exchange, you can read+send Outlook emails; it also adds a Teams icon to your Thunderbird sidebar that acts as a link to the web client.

    Thunderbird, by default, can only read from Exchange mailboxes, but can’t send from them. If you don’t want to pay, the developers are working to add full Exchange support as stock. (There are also less legitimate ways to get Exchange support, like cracking Owl, but out of respect for the addon dev, you’ll have to find it yourself)

    Edit:

    If you’re new to Linux as a whole, I’ve seen many recommendations for Mint (a Debian and Ubuntu derivative), but I’ve never tried it myself. I started with Debian since I wanted a stable system that wouldn’t break down by itself or something. It’s rock solid on my Framework 13 Ryzen.

    As for a Desktop Environment (DE), you can’t go wrong with GNOME or KDE. I prefer KDE since I don’t like the “look” of GNOME and it’s more “Windows-like” (but still it’s own thing), but it’s really just personal preference.

    • Office used to work via Wine in the past (using older versions of Office), but the latest versions of Micr$oft Office is so badly written, it’s hard to setup and run office under Wine indeed.

    • I was wondering the applicability of Libre to the officeland as I haven’t really used either in a number of years.

      On the DEs: I’ve been gnome based pretty much always, almost never used gnome itself, directly. Xfce is my workhorse. Recently tried & dig cinnamon. Am ready to convert for a few months, at least.

      I’ve tried KDE a few times, always short-lived as I can’t abide lack of keystroke windows management (I’m guessing they have them & I never took the 5 minutes to learn them). Mostly tried years ago. It was heavy and made my trash PCs choke. Felt like chrome does now.

      Ubuntu’s native DE I can’t stomach for similar lack of common keystrokes and bad colors (again, a few minutes to change & learn because something else probably put me off enough that I wasn’t interested). Corporate construction has to be pretty awesome to get me to want to use it. No corporations come to mind that fit that.

  • From all the comments it looks like it’s quite a challenge to go native Linux.

    One option, run a VM using KVM (Kernel Virtual Machine, native to some distros).

    You can install Windows IOT LTSC (Long-term Servicing Channel), which receives only security updates 2x/year, no others. It also doesn’t have all the bloat. It’s what I run for daily use.

    Win10 LTSC. It gets updates 2x/year, has very minimal bloat.

    Windows LTSC Downloads, don’t forget to grab the key.

    Then get O&O Shutup to reduce bloat even more (mostly just to limit telemetry on Windows).

    And you can permanently license it using Microsoft’s own scripts. - Scripts on Github.

    At one time you could directly launch apps in VMs using SeamlessRDP, I’m not sure if that still works or if there’s something new.

    As others have said, wtf is wrong with the school - requiring OneDrive? FFS

      • Pro gives you Group Policy, which is essential for controlling things any more (especially telemetry and automatic updates, for example).

        And yea, gonna need some ram to run a VM. Linux may run OK on lesser amounts, but even a VM of Windows can get pretty hungry. It’ll run ok with 8 allocated to it, and it’ll slog along with less, but still run.

  • None of those things you’ve mentioned require you to install something to your system. Outlook has a website which works perfectly fine on Firefox, and you can access OneDrive on web. As for Teams, I’ve had varying amounts of luck with the web app, but I think that’s more to do with my myriad browser addons than my system? I dunno though

  •  Phoenixz   ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 
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    I have the same situation at work, where I’m actually the CTO and have the power to change that but… It’s been like this for two years before I came in and right now there are a lot of dependencies to fix. It’ll take at least a year to prepare tos switch away, it sucks.

    Having said that.

    I’m running kubuntu myself and use the web version of teams and office, which both are hilariously bad to the point where you really have to ask the question why people pay money for this shit.

    Google is an evil company but at least their software works to a reasonable point. Teams and office365 and outlook are so bad that I could write a multi page bug list and that is ignoring the fact that its just so hard to get anything done. Everything requires extra clicks, teams call connection lost? Sucks to be you, you can’t simply reload like in Google Meet, you have to ask your client to include you again in the call which is just sad. Outlook go back to the previous message with the browser back button which is there for exactly jat reason? Yeaaahhh, sucks to be you, buddy. Just a few random design issues from a long, long list.

    Fuck everything about Microsoft

    Edit: teams requires chrome, video calls won’t work on firefox for the moment, causing a crash in some codec library