•  BearOfaTime   ( @BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ) 
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    Wrong in so many ways.

    Yes, diets primarily work by caloric deficit. But if you eat nothing but Snickers and maintain a calory deficit you’re gonna have a bad time.

    You should read up in low carb, something doctors have recommended for diabetic patients since the 1930’s, because of how metabolism works (specifically glycemic response to specific macro nutrients).

    This chart is meaningless.

    If anyone wants a better layman’s understanding, read “The Zone” by Barry Sears (a biochemist). Don’t read any other books of his, just the first one from the early 90’s.

  • This is such a fucking stupid infographic, it’s just straight up misinformation.

    I have done keto, my partner was doing Calorie counting at the time and was curious and did the math for me. I was consuming about 150% of my normal pre-diet Calorie intake and losing 500g per day for a month. CICO is flatout not the mechanic used.

        • Sarcasm aside, the science shows that Keto simply isn’t good for fat weight loss and that most weight lost isn’t fat, especially at the beginning.

          Yes, you still do lose some fat, but not as much as an actual healthy diet would with some form of calorie restriction.

          In the link I posted, there’s a study showing that Keto actually slows down fat loss because it messes with the body so much.

          No reason to go on an extreme diet when there are safe, healthy, and far more effective strategies to consider.

    •  bjorney   ( @bjorney@lemmy.ca ) 
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      62 months ago

      I was consuming about 150% of my normal pre-diet Calorie intake and losing 500g per day for a month. CICO is flatout not the mechanic used.

      You are stating that without knowing your calories out, and asserting that the laws of thermodynamics aren’t real

      Keto works due to two things: 1) proteins and fats are more filling than carbs, and 2) your basal metabolic rate increases when you are in ketosis

        • It is but it isn’t. CICO is not the whole picture, but it is the foundation of the rest of the picture.

          No matter what you eat, if you consume and absorb fewer calories than you burn you will lose weight, whether it be through body fat or body muscle.

          That is a known truth.

          However, there are many other factors at play right now that every single person that just jumps on the calorie in calorie out bandwagon refuse to wrap their heads around.

        •  bjorney   ( @bjorney@lemmy.ca ) 
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          62 months ago

          I simply stated that CICO isn’t the mechanism that keto uses.

          It literally is though.

          When you are in ketosis your CO increases, so even if your CI stays the same you will now be operating at a deficit

          • It is not.

            This is such an obnoxious form of pedantry. Yes you absorb less calories from the food you digest and yes you poop out more unused calories and yes the way your body uses fat is less chemically efficient than carbs.

            That’s just not what anyone means when they say CO. Technically true in such an “ummm aktshully I’m a teenager that just learned thermo 101 and have to be right about everything” kind of way that’s just not relevant to the discussion being had. Yes, of course if you put everyone doing keto in a chamber where you measured emitted heat and put all their poop through a calorimeter thermodynamics applies.

            The point is none of that matters in the context of discussing diets because you can very successfully lose weight on keto while eating more calories than you did before and not changing lifestyle.

  •  edric   ( @scytale@lemm.ee ) 
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    92 months ago

    IF was the best for me because it was the easiest. No need to avoid anything or do any portion control. Just don’t eat for a certain number of hours. I lost weight without having to watch what I eat. I think just the fact that I stopped snacking in the evening already helped a ton. The best diet is the one you can stick with.

  •  Allero   ( @Allero@lemmy.today ) 
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    82 months ago

    Various diets essentially tackle the issues of caloric balance from different sides and employ some hacks to either make you feel full with little calories or to force body to dispose of such calories more efficiently.

    At the end of the day, it’s all caloric deficit, but you can make it in different ways.

    •  Umbrias   ( @Umbrias@beehaw.org ) 
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      22 months ago

      And caloric deficit is only true on a fictitious notion of metabolism via a simplified system model of a human as a black box. As far as weight loss strategies go, calorie counting is extremely ineffective, and often leads to worse quality of life.

      If your goal is however to shame people with a highschool level understanding of metabolism by making the problem into something “simple” they are failing to do with your actively bad advice, it’s effective.

  •  rxbudian   ( @rxbudian@lemmy.ca ) 
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    52 months ago

    Quite a biased guide.
    It imiplies that the objective of all diets is to lose weight. If that’s the intent for the guide, then it should show all diets, and all of them would have to show that they do that by creating a caloric deficit

  •  Bear   ( @bear@lemmynsfw.com ) 
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    42 months ago

    How it works: by making weight loss happen, technically speaking.

    How it works: by discarding your excess fat molecules, quantifiably measured.

    How it works: by eating less than you did before, scientifically of course.

  •  jet   ( @jet@hackertalks.com ) 
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    Everyone in the comments below is talking about calories.

    The reason people are so frustrated is that while calories are important physically, they are NOT the main issues.

    Carbohydrate Insulin Model of Obesity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK1zePxBJu4

    TLDR: high hormonal insulin causes havoc in your body, making weight loss very difficult, reducing systemically high insulin levels let’s the body self regulate more effectively.

    •  BCsven   ( @BCsven@lemmy.ca ) 
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      42 months ago

      You could have medical anomolies that slow metabolism, so that weight loss is extremely difficult, but even then a reduction in caloric intake will cause weight loss. But somebody surviving on 2000 a day dropping 200 calories out is easy, compared to somebody sustaining on an 800 calorie diet and trying to cut 200 out.

      There are some meds like olanzipine? that tweak your metabolism and it uses calories more efficiently, therby causing weight gain on same caloric intake, so the remedy on that med is eat less calories

  • Keto diets don’t really create a caloric deficit. Instead, it fucks with your metabolism by inducing ketosis in conditions you normally wouldn’t. Essentially, you’re tricking your body into thinking you’re starving, which means you start breaking down fats when you don’t need to. I hear it’s absolutely miserable and bad for you, too.

    Intermittent fasting does something similar, if it’s done correctly. Shit is wild.

    •  Volt   ( @Volt@pawb.social ) 
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      52 months ago

      Close but not exactly, your body is capable of freely switching between fat or carb burning. When your body really thinks it’s starving, it will start “eating” your muscles instead.

      Fat burning gives steady supply of energy instead of the highs and lows of energy dense carbs. You feel this the hardest after lunch, on carbs you’ll often feel tired and sluggish. You don’t have this on keto.

      Switching into keto can be a miserable experience though, so you’re right about that. Once in keto it’s chill.

    •  BCsven   ( @BCsven@lemmy.ca ) 
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      22 months ago

      The thing with keto is when overweight people start they are overeating, and so dropping carbs puts them into calorie deficit for sustaining the bodily functions. Then forcing the body to have no quick fuel availble starts ketosis.

      But over eating on keto can keep you from losing weight. Look to the traditional diet Inuit First nation that survived in the tundra on meats and fats. They weren’t in ketosis

    • Because from a weight-loss perspective it doesn’t matter what you eat, only how much calories you stuff into your mouth. You could eat nothing but bacon and still lose weight, if you eat only so much that you still burn more calories per day than the bacon delivers. If you keep your portions the same size but move to food with more calories, you will of course gain weight.

    •  BCsven   ( @BCsven@lemmy.ca ) 
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      32 months ago

      Fat can also trigger parts of your system to stop craving it, so you stop trying to aquire it by overeating. There are some science articles about it.

      Staving off constant hunger can be as easy as cooking up a lentil (daal) soup that has some oil/butter in it. The lentils make you get a very full satisfied feeling in the bowel and the fats hit the part that wants fats.

  • While “true” at face value, it’s important to note what kind of weight loss people are experiencing.

    Many of those diets cause water and muscle loss, so while you’re losing “weight”, it’s the wrong kind of weight to lose! LOL