“Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this,” he added.
neidu2 ( @neidu2@feddit.nl ) 48•8 months agoI’m sure she’d do just fine as president, but I have a hard time believing that the US is going to elect a woman of color.
Please, voters, I hope I’m wrong on this one. Prove me wrong, please.
Nougat ( @Nougat@fedia.io ) 32•8 months agoCouple of positives:
Having the current VP take over the nomination at this point is “continuity of leadership.” It’s a much smaller change than bringing in someone with less name recognition, or from a “lower” political position.
Having a woman of color take the nomination would make the race between Harris and Trump much ideologically clearer. It would also dare the right to show its true colors about it. Remember that we got Trump essentially as a “Well, if you can elect a black guy, we can elect a racist lunatic!” Having a woman of color running as the Democratic nominee is going to make people pick sides even harder than they are already, and it’s the “oh god, not Trump” people who really need to be motivated to pick their side.
And you know that Biden’s endorsement of Harris had to have come after discussions with congressional Democrats and other party leaders to make sure most everyone gets in line behind Harris, and doesn’t act like a bunch of backyard chickens going every direction. I expect (hope?) this endorsement to be followed by many others.
tigeruppercut ( @tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ) 18•8 months agoYeah, but it’s a prosecutor running against a criminal. The memes write themselves.
superkret ( @superkret@feddit.org ) 16•8 months agoAnd the criminal is running for the “Party of Law and Order”.
NuXCOM_90Percent ( @NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ) 8•8 months agoWe are democrats. Never trust us to slit our own throats.
But yeah. This feels about as coordinated as it can be. Expect vp tomorrow
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 11•8 months agoIf they’re smart they’ll tap AOC or Bernie for VP.
Instant party unity with zero effort.
Che Banana ( @The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org ) 8•8 months agoMakes too much sense so won’t happen.
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 5•8 months agoHistorical precedent says you’re right.
Che Banana ( @The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org ) 1•8 months agoNormally I love being right…booo
NuXCOM_90Percent ( @NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ) 5•8 months agoSanders gets us back to the “too old” and has the added benefit of him being historically horrible at condemning atrocities by “Communist” countries.
And AOC is too young. And also a she is of color
Blake (he/him) ( @bl4kers@beehaw.org ) English1•8 months agoI don’t think anyone cares if the VP is “too old” honestly. Most of the time it feels like the VP does things in the background and makes far less headlines. Case in point: Kamala Harris
TheButtonJustSpins ( @TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub ) English5•8 months agoDayum. Here for this.
realitista ( @realitista@lemm.ee ) 3•8 months agoI dunno, they need to give something to centrists and independents to win. Kamala’s base is all totally united against trump already I think.
t3rmit3 ( @t3rmit3@beehaw.org ) 3•8 months agoI’m hoping for Buttigieg for VP.
realitista ( @realitista@lemm.ee ) 2•8 months agoI hope you are right. Not fielding the incumbent is a mistake according to most people who have had good success of predicting elections.
At least for now, I am hopeful. All sorts of other countries have elected women. The U.S. should get with it. I know there will be people who say, “Maybe, but not THAT woman” – but those people always say that about any woman, so that’s never going to be the base.
neidu2 ( @neidu2@feddit.nl ) 12•8 months agoYeah, I’m thinking along the same lines. The people not wanting to vote for that woman is sure has hell not going to vote for Whitmer, for example. And they didn’t want to vote for that woman in 2016 either.
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 8•8 months agoThe 49% who always vote Republican will always vote for whoever’s nominated.
The 49% who vote Democrat will always vote for whoever’s nominated.
You’re trying to pull the 1-2% who can be swayed here, and they’re going to be reading lots of stories about Harris’ tough-on-crime record where she ruthlessly pursued nonviolent drug users and people who skipped school.
Clinton had a ton of baggage too.
Pretending people just hate women is silly when you’re picking women whose records are eminently hateable, especially so after none of you voted for Marianne Williamson in the primary.
niucllos ( @niucllos@lemm.ee ) 10•8 months agoIt’s more like the 30% who always vote R will vote for whoever, the 30% who always vote D will vote for whoever. Kamala’s task is to get the 1-2% independents who always vote, yes, but also convince as many of the 40% who never bother showing up as possible to actually show up like some have started to in the last elections where reproductive healthcare/etc have been on the line. If she can motivate people for herself and simultaneously underscore that trump is an octogenarian with dreams of fascism and Project 2025 is what he would do, I think we’ll have a landslide. That’s a big if though.
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 3•8 months agoconvince as many of the 40% who never bother showing up as possible to actually show up
That 40% has spent the last eight years having both parties emphasize to them, repeatedly, and daily, that they don’t give a f*** about their economic security.
Why would they miss a badly needed day’s pay to vote for either of these parties?
I think we’re going to have another razor thing 49% election, personally.
Minarble ( @Minarble@aussie.zone ) 10•8 months agoBiden should just declare election day- the day that defines the very nature of the nation, the day all Americans should do their patriotic duty and vote a national holiday.
Monkey With A Shell ( @ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com ) 2•8 months agoIf those people can look at Trump’s record and be fine with it, I don’t suspect the ethics of one’s work as a DA are going to be the deciding factor.
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 2•8 months agoPartisans of either color don’t care about a person’s record. They care about team color.
frankPodmore ( @frankPodmore@slrpnk.net ) English20•8 months agoThe thing is that when Americans voted for the oldest Presidential candidate ever, with Harris as the VP, they were effectively saying they were okay with her as President. So, it’s safe to have some faith in Americans on this one!
wildncrazyguy138 ( @wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io ) 14•8 months agoI will be canvassing and driving people to the polls.
With Kamala, we’ll probably lose Nevada and may lose some of the blue wall, but this will put some southern states back in play.
I think we’ll get Michigan and Minnesota, but lose Wisconsin.
Georgia comes back to blue. NC comes back in play, but it will vacillate depending on what direction the wind is blowing on Election Day. I think there’s a possible chance there that Robinson/Kamala split the ticket.
I have absolutely no insight on politics in Arizona, but I’m not optimistic there.
Florida and Texas will be even more red than normal.
Pennsylvania will be an absolute squeaker, it will take every precinct in Philly to show up and show up hard. It was and will continue to be the most important state for the election.
What I personally need to see from Kamala is passion. She needs use that brilliant wit of hers to cut Trump down to the bone like she did Biden in 2016. But of course there’s a fucking “angry black woman” bias racist bullshit that the media is going to push that she has to overcome as well.
hitmyspot ( @hitmyspot@aussie.zone ) 15•8 months agoOr they can lean in to. Yes, I’m angry. I dont want a racist, sexist old convicted-criminal leading the country I fight hard to jeep safe. All the more so when he’s crazy.
Shell be able tonpush trumps buttons In a way Biden can’t any more.
wildncrazyguy138 ( @wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io ) 1•8 months agoI like it, take the weakness and flip the script on its head.
Sonori ( @sonori@beehaw.org ) 9•8 months agoI worry that a lot of the left is going to be hesitant to turn out to vote for a tough on crime cop so soon after we had nationwide protests against people like her and at a time when the stop cop city protests continue to get national coverage.
Meanwhile, I bet Fox is already talking about the DEI hire who never would have been hired to be anything more than a waitress if not for reverse racism.
And we haven’t even gotten to the chance that she isn’t even allowed to show up on the ballot in some Republican ran states because the deadline for submitting candidates already passed or whatever.
zhunk ( @zhunk@beehaw.org ) 8•8 months agoRegarding ballot eligibility- I think part of timing for this is that the Dems are about to have their “roll call” in the next week or two to officially nominate a candidate to get on ballots before the official full convention.
superkret ( @superkret@feddit.org ) 6•8 months agoThey’re currently calling it a successful coup against a sitting president by the Dem party, and highlighting that Harris was endorsed by Hillary Clinton. But at the same time they are calling for Biden to resign immediately, which would make Harris president instantly.
t3rmit3 ( @t3rmit3@beehaw.org ) 6•8 months agoThey want Kamala to get in via succession, rather than via voting. If she succeeds Biden now, they can just claim that she was effectively the incumbent, come November. If she gets in via votes not as the incumbent, it’s harder for them to claim it was just “handed” to her by the DeepState™.
Silverseren ( @Silverseren@fedia.io ) 17•8 months agoOne funny thing to note is that, outside of just overt racism, all the arguments to use against Harris (that were used in the last election and primarily from the left) are ones that…won’t exactly make her seem bad to conservatives. Like, are you really going to use a “she’s tough on crime” argument against her?
ericjmorey ( @ericjmorey@beehaw.org ) English17•8 months agoRepublican voters are never going to change their preference to a democratic candidate based on who the Democratic candidate is. The people who have potential to vote for Democrats aren’t undecided in who they prefer, they’re undecided if they even care enough to vote at all. Getting more people motivated to vote who didn’t vote in the prior election is the only way to gain votes. That’s true for any Democratic or Republican candidate for president. Presidential candidates need to make sure that people who voted in the last election for their party’s candidate don’t become disinterested in voting in the current election.
The tough on crime reputation Harris has may demotivate otherwise likely voters for a Democratic candidate.
Che Banana ( @The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org ) 7•8 months agoOh they will ignore that and focus on something else.
TikoBrown ( @TikoBrown@beehaw.org ) English14•8 months agoI have 0% problem voting for and supporting Kamila, but…
We are doomed! Trump will win without cheating including the House and the Senate, he will scream “Mandate” and get another term too.
This is not the America Obama won in. Do you really belive a woman of color can be elected to lead this nation at this time in this climate?
I really hope I am wrong, I would love to eat the words above, but I am a realist.
I think we had/have one chance of hope. Senator Mark Kelly (Navy combat veteran and Astronaut) but the Democratic party leadership is full of braindead sycophant’s, that’s why we are here now.
inverted_deflector ( @inverted_deflector@startrek.website ) 9•8 months agoIts definitely worrying. Even if she were the BEST candidate, Kamala Harris has an uphill battle in this country because she’s not white and a woman.
And she isnt the best and most popular choice which makes it tricky.
The problem is who else would they put on the ballet?
millie ( @millie@beehaw.org ) English6•8 months agoHonestly? I think she’s got this. I was really against the idea of derailing energy from the Biden campaign, but now that we’re here? I’m on board 100%. I have a good feeling.
She’s not Hilary. A sitting vice president probably has a better shot than a felon.
superkret ( @superkret@feddit.org ) 12•8 months agoFox News is already calling this a “successful coup carried out by the Dems against a sitting US president”.
t3rmit3 ( @t3rmit3@beehaw.org ) 9•8 months agoThe fact I’m seeing so many conservatives butthurt over this tells me it was the right choice. They knew they had it in the bag before he dropped.
Gormadt ( @Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 11•8 months agoAnd here comes Kamala with a steel chair!
t3rmit3 ( @t3rmit3@beehaw.org ) 4•8 months agoAh, what could have been…