tl:dr; India is a terrible place to live in, Indians lead miserable lives and are not even aware of it, they are facing many other problems and they are not aware of that too, they are delusional and still stuck in the past. Being born poor in India signs you up for difficult to conquer problems because of the culture you grow up in, Human development happens at the pace of a tortoise here, India is a curse, now how can I get rid of the curse and lead a fulfilling and happy life?
I see the middle class Indians and while their life is better than mine, it’s nothing to write home about. They are doing ok, they are not great and I am lower middle class, even if I try my best, I don’t think I will be rewarded well for that. Indians start life at 0 while other developed countries are at an average of 4, Indians just dream of the 4, they just want that 4! That’s their life, they pursue their life, whole lives, just to get a decent life! I don’t want to do this, this doesn’t excite me! Help! What can I do? P.S: I am a 22yo who is worthless and who has a worthless (0 value) degree from a useless Indian university, how can I improve my life!
If you want to read why I think being born in India is a multi-generational curse, carry on reading, otherwise, this was enough!
- Indian educational system is garbage and it doesn’t create high-value labor, it produces unremarkable individuals.
- Indian infrastructure is a joke with everything built by the government being of the lowest quality.
- Indian is one of most corrupt countries in the world (top 10-20 maybe).
- People are extremely tribal and in the absence of resources for development, Indians will try to barter what little resources there are along community lines (reservations) than force the government to try and create more economic opportunities.
- Private Industry from foreign companies are a sigh of relief but due to above mentioned reasons (low-skilled labor, bad economy, bad infrastructure, stupid policies and Kafkaesque bureaucracy) most companies justifiably don’t want to set up shop in India and this exacerbates the economy problem.
- Indians clamor for Western attention and approval, most of them do realize India is nothing to write home about but they don’t understand the extent of the problem. They are way too proud of minuscule achievements. They are even less aware of how the culture that prevails now will produce nothing but failure. They lose it when anyone of Indian decent does anything noteworthy and they are way too proud to accept the problem. This is the reason why youtubers love to praise India, they know what works in India. The government takes advantage of this and calls everyone who dares to criticize the country or their government as anti-national. Many journalists have been jailed for reporting facts. We never learn and we are committed to never learning! Even when Indians leave India, they try to create a mini-India abroad and not go out of their cultural comfort zone.
- We are creepy! I was creepy, I am a little creepy still, I had to work A LOT to be able to be normal around women, that trope, it’s real and it’s just saddening in the highest degree. Indians don’t socialize with opposite sex a lot and it’s discouraged and sometimes forbidden in this culture to do so, so you create adults who can’t really talk comfortably towards women. Took me a long time to realize the problem and solve it, the past me disgusts the present me!
Edit: 8. Indians lack any kind of civic responsibility. They throw garbage everywhere, they spit pan (tobacco stuff) anywhere and everywhere, open defecation isn’t as big of a problem as people pissing in the streets but it still remains a problem, I have done this too (When I was little). I can’t get my parents to not throw off plastic off the train no matter how much I explain then why it’s wrong in multiple ways! Most Indian cities look like a garbage dumb than a place to live. If people at least had kept our streets clean and acknowledge the problems facing this country instead of being proud of mediocrity, I would have been been more than willing to try to turn things for the better here, but they don’t!!
I can write a book about this, but for the sake of your time and mine, I will stop.
I have realized one thing after being born here, it’s irredeemable! It won’t get drastically better. I just don’t know what to do about it and that is why I am asking you for advice!
Hey! Thank you! that’s gonna come in handy!
There are also some India-specific comms where you may find people who’d commiserate.
You are a gift that keeps on giving, thank you! I will check em out!
On a personal level? Leaving really is the best option. Unless you have a good support network there, you’ll never really be able to get out of the cycle. I’m not Indian but I moved from my similar 3rd world country to a 1st world country. It was hard no doubt, and will probably be a little harder for you depending on the country and how many of your countrymen are trying to get in (i.e. Indians in the US wait a decade or more to get permanent residency). You can also try the education route if you can afford it. Another option as well is moving to maybe another country that doesn’t have to be a top 1st world destination. You can maybe check out southeast asia and see what opportunities are there.
Just a thought, but several of your anecdotes could describe 19th-century Europe, England in particular. Obviously India today is far more advanced than Victorian England, but still, is it possible that these are just normal growing pains for a country?
Oh yes, it most certainly is, but it is not redeemable in my life time/youth is what I know for sure.
Really appreciate your post! I had an amazing date with an Indian woman here in Germany, but the guys just seem to not understand the concept of keeping their dicks in their pants.
But you know, it’s a cultural thing and you are a leader in that sense. Hope you realize that. Every time you act it is like a ripple.
I had an amazing date with an Indian woman here in Germany
Yay you!
the guys just seem to not understand the concept of keeping their dicks in their pants.
screams semi-joyfully It’s the curse
Things change slowly then all at once.
Which is to say, the older generations are very set in their ways, but the new generations can be completely different.
You say you can write a book, maybe you should. Detail all the things you see and don’t like. Give me a voice to the people who think like you.
You say you can write a book, maybe you should
Ohh… I have thought about that, but India is not a country which takes criticism lightly. They will immediately say I am funded by Pakistan, Soros or by the enemies of the state and if the book is even published, it will gain me infamy making me immediately unemployable for anything else. It’s no joke being an author in India.
They have jailed people for reporting on UP schools serving bread with salt and this is not an outlier, journalists are in constant danger here.
edit: Read up the Broadcasters bill, I just read about this and this is 1984 level shit.
I can’t say I know what I’d do if I were in your situation. But many people throughout history have chosen to write those books, and they have suffered for that choice, but they have also driven change.
i don’t know how well you can move to a more developed country, but maybe you could move to a different underdeveloped country and try your skills there?
A lot of these problems used to be widespread in the West, too. Littering was still ubiquitous into the 70’s, at the edge of living memory you have all kinds of ethnic rent seeking and corruption, and sanitation was a huge problem in the 19th century. Stick with democracy and give it a a lifetime or two (change is hard, I’m sorry).
Even when Indians leave India, they try to create a mini-India abroad and not go out of their cultural comfort zone.
That’s not my experience in Canada. All immigrant communities tend to stick together, just for the familiarity, but I’d say Indians are are more comfortable interacting with other groups than average. It’s probably because India itself is so diverse.
I know I can’t actually help you, but I have to say, I’m excited for you. You sound like you have carefully thought through your ideas, and concluded “I don’t personally have a future in India”. You are in a tough spot financially, but I can tell you have the fire inside you. You’re going to find a better country to live in, and change your circumstances, like so many Indian ex-pats before you! You can do it.
I think the ideal solution is to leave. But you don’t have to fight to get to super competitive places. There are a lot of other countries out there with easier immigration policies, including developed western countries. Instead of obvious places like the US, UK, etc - have you considered less visited but developed countries like Argentina, Uruguay, Hungary, Latvia, whatever? These are likely a lot easier to immigrate to.
have you considered less visited but developed countries like Argentina, Uruguay, Hungary, Latvia, whatever? These are likely a lot easier to immigrate to.
Yep, considering countries like that, especially like Hungary or Argentina. I need to set one country on mind and start learning their language right about now!
I unfortunately can’t help you with what I think you should do: emigrate to another country, preferably one of the more socialist European ones. I don’t know what is required to emigrate, it probably differs per country. But I’m pretty sure it should be possible to find out by going online and looking around.
I wish you lots of good luck and all the best. I hope you can get a better life. Just remember, people are shitty everywhere, they’re just more or less shitty.
Thank you very very much for those well wishes! :)
Your country isn’t much different than mine, I hope you get OK, bro. Life will always change.
Hi, I understand your frustrations because I have same frustrations as you. I have an M.Tech from IITM and still, I cannot seem find a job that I like. One that unleashes my creative potential. For now, I am considering some potential options, maybe they give you some idea of your own. One that I am considering is horticulture. However, the biggest drawback of this is that land can be expensive. Another option I have been considering is vocational courses like hotel management, or chef or something of similar vein like carpentry, electrician, etc. These are pretty stable and good jobs. Personally, I was considering baking, just because I find it fascinating. Another option that I am considering is immigrating to another country. I am considering Canada, which has a 5 year Permanent residency program. It costs like 230k rupees to apply for that visa.
I hope some of this helps you. If you need any help, you can DM me too. I will try as much as I can.