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- tobogganablaze ( @tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ) English23•1 month ago
However, no one is born loving hot dogs or disliking broccoli and Brazil nuts; our food preferences are learned.
- memfree ( @memfree@beehaw.org ) English9•1 month ago
However, no one is born loving hot dogs or disliking broccoli
But we ARE! Doesn’t anyone remember the whole kerfuffle about the ‘bitter’ gene and PTC sensitivity?
- tobogganablaze ( @tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ) English5•1 month ago
But we ARE!
You just qouted my qoute, I’m not saying that. I agree with you. It’s a bit similar to arachnophobia. There seems to be a genetic inate behaviour to avoid certain creepy crawlies. And it can be unlearned. But it’s absurd to deny that it’s there.
- memfree ( @memfree@beehaw.org ) English6•1 month ago
Sorry, I was trying to add my support. You gave good evidence for a meat preference and I wanted to back it up with evidence of genetic aversion to the specific vegetable mentioned in the original article.
Cooked doesn’t have to mean meat.
- tobogganablaze ( @tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ) English12•1 month ago
I’m sure there are also preferences towards other cooked foods, but the study I linked is specifically talking about cooked meat.
- 𝗧𝗼𝗮𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿 *𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑝𝑢𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑑𝑜𝑤𝑛 ( @toaster@slrpnk.net ) English6•1 month ago
This is one study. Both the author of this article and you should not be so quick to draw strong conclusions.
For instance, the idea that early humanoids took the form of “cavemen” who ate a ton of meat is debated, and largely built on assumptions made from finding hunting tools.
More recent evidence of the oldest known fossilized human feces has shown very amounts of dietary fiber - much more than our modern diet. The amount of meat eaten in the USA today is not historically common.
- tobogganablaze ( @tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ) English2•1 month ago
Yeah, it’s just one study but it’s part of a bigger picture.
Once humanity discovered fire and basic techniques for preservation it became viable for groups of people to work together and produce a surpluse of highly nutritious food and the ability to store it for later. And the majority of very early human history is centred around either hunting or fishing communities. That’s how most humans lived before we eventually came up with agriculture, which was just around 10.000 years ago. We were hunter-gatheres for like 200.000, maybe much longer. That’s a timespan that allows for minor gentic adaptations like that, especially if there is a strong evolutionary pressure. Some extreme example would be early civisations in the arctic regions, which sometimes entirly depened on one food source (very often seals).
So I’m pretty confident in saying that taste not just “learned behavior”. Of course there are genetic factors involved, it would be aburd if there weren’t. We are just animals afterall.
- tobogganablaze ( @tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ) English1•1 month ago
2nd reply, because when I wrote my first one, your reply was just the first line.
For instance, the idea that early humanoids took the form of “cavemen” who ate a ton of meat is debated, and largely built on assumptions made from finding hunting tools.
I think they were highly seasonal. You had periods where you could gather a lot fruit and plants to eat, your hunting season and your “bare” season where you had to rely on surpluse and preservation. Diet would be highly variable depending on where and when and what resources and technologies were availbible.
The amount of meat eaten in the USA today is not historically common.
Not on average, for sure. But as I said in my first replies, there are examples of early communities that lived almost entirly of meat. Not even a side of fries.
- imgcat ( @imgcat@lemmy.ml ) 3•1 month ago
This is plain false.
- tunetardis ( @tunetardis@lemmy.ca ) English8•1 month ago
A good place to start might be to look at the huge number of ethnic dishes built around beans. People around the world have been inventive in this regard for centuries.
For the North American diet, it would help if fast food offered more bean options. There’s Taco Bell and the like, I guess. And hummus and falafel are working their way into places that sell wraps. But while burger joints are increasingly offering veggie burgers that are presumably using some kind of bean or pea-based protein, I wonder why they don’t try offering a chili? We have a chilli festival where I live and it’s hugely popular with around half the recipes being bean-based.
- Blackout ( @Blackout@kbin.run ) 6•1 month ago
Make bean memes great again!
- sleepybisexual ( @sleepybisexual@beehaw.org ) 3•1 month ago
Can we just have landlords instead? /j
- LunchMoneyThief ( @LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org ) English2•1 month ago
Idea scratchpad:
- Hire celebrities and late night talk show hosts to endorse the product and/or do skits about the product
- Incentivize the product by offer pairing, example: offer free donut or free burger and fries along with product
- Schedule airtime for industry experts to proselytize the product’s efficacy
- Offer different versions of product from loosely “competing” vendors. The natural human tendency to form tribes will carry the promotion of said product.
- Overtly threaten your potential consumers: “If you don’t consume then you’re going to lose your means of income!”
- Tie the consumption of product to their natural rights, while sneakily rebranding rights simply as “privileges” that can be revoked in response to product refusal.
These aren’t my own ideas. I’m just borrowing them from some experts in the field.