So Israel break international law and then Starmer asks Iran to just suck it up, saying it will put the ceasefire in jeopardy, ignoring the fact that Israel just assassinated the lead negotiator. What in the bloody fuck?

    • “Hello Mister President, I’m calling to offer you the support of our nation. You’re the victim of an international crime and that’s not okay under any circumstances, the United Kingdom will ensure justice is served via the courts. We want you to know on record that we condemn the continued international crimes and war crimes that Israel continues to perpetrate.”

      • Since you agree with the UK government that it’s best to settle this through the international systems of diplomacy and justice, would it be fair to say you also agree that Iran shouldn’t respond by attacking Israel?

          • I agree Israel should face international justice, so both you and I, and Starmer, are on the same page, there. If Iran does launch some kind of attack on Israel, I think that will delay any justice, while worsening the situation in Gaza and the Middle East (by which I mean, to be clear, lots of people will die, which is the last thing we want). So to me it seems fair to try and persuade everyone involved to solve this diplomatically, which is what Starmer is asking Iran and Israel to do:

            [Starmer] called on all parties to “de-escalate and avoid further regional confrontation”

            Naturally while speaking to Iran, he’s focusing on Iran’s choices, but it’s consistent with his current position calling on Israel to agree to negotiate a ceasefire and allow humanitarian aid into Gaza.

            • When Starmer went on record as saying Israel the right to defend itself. Where was all the talk about saving lives? Now that it’s a brown nation that has the right to defend itself, you’re calling for de-escalation. Be consistent Frank.

              I’ve seen Starmer condemn Hamas, where has he condemned Israel? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/hamas-david-lammy-gaza-palestinians-john-mcdonnell-b2427321.html

              In fact, while the world watches Israel commits war crimes, Starmer and yourself continue to throw support their way, vocally and otherwise https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/8/uks-new-pm-starmer-calls-for-urgent-need-for-gaza-ceasefire

              Speaking up for people failing to condemn the murdering of innocent men, women and children in shelters, schools and hospitals is abhorrent as far as I’m concerned.

              The world will look back on this and a lot of people should be fucking ashamed of themselves.

              • while the world watches Israel commits war crimes, Starmer and yourself continue to throw support their way, vocally and otherwise

                Happy to discuss this or indeed anything with anyone, but I won’t have my views misrepresented. I’ve not said this or anything like it, ever.

                • I’m sorry, how else would you like us to interpret

                  I’m struggling to understand what you think he should have said.

                  Followed by

                  Since you agree with the UK government that it’s best to settle this through the international systems of diplomacy and justice, would it be fair to say you also agree that Iran shouldn’t respond by attacking Israel?

                  Especially in light of the links above where Starmer clearly isn’t impartial.

              • The Brits haven’t even come to terms with the shit they did in India you think they’ll ever own up to the chaos they’ve caused in the Middle East?

                Just take comfort that the UK is an irrelevance now.

                • any given thing

                  literally the thing we’re talking about

                  the precise context I think is important

                  literally any context other than this specific one

                   

                  if you only ever bring up how israel needs to face international justice in the context of iran facing international justice, it kind of sounds like you don’t really care about israel facing international justice

      • The Islamic Regime in Tehran should be toppled at the earliest possible opportunity.

        They are enemies of Britain and we do not support them in anything.

        The Regime in Tehran should be undermined, opposed, attacked wherever possible.

          • No, they’re a hostile power collaborating with our enemies including Russia and China. The drones used by Russia are purchased from Iran. They are intent on a campaign of genocide against our allies in Israel and have become a destabilising force across the wider Middle East, causing Lebanon and Yemen to become failed states.

            This juvenile self-loathing anti-Westernism is honestly so boring at this point.