Mine is Henry Ford. He’s the catalyst of the 40 hour work week and 5 days a week that has been standard to the present day. Because we’re seeing now how little that really does for anyone anymore, where people are having to sacrifice more of their freedom to work second jobs or more hours than they should.
I don’t think it’s his fault directly for those reasons, but him thinking the 40 hour/5 day a week plan is a good one is just a poor reading into the future with the way it’s gone since the establishment.
- gloriousspearfish ( @gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk ) 46•18 days ago
You do know that his 40hours a week was a dramatic reduction in working hours compared to the norm at that time?
- HobbitFoot ( @HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ) English32•18 days ago
Yeah. There are a lot of reasons to give Henry Ford shit, but the 40 hour workweek was one of the better things he did.
- dotslashme ( @dotslashme@infosec.pub ) English26•18 days ago
I’m going to go with Leopold II of Belgium because of the atrocities this fucker unleashed upon the democratic republic of the Kongo.
Kissinger also come to mind, but he’s not been dead long enough to be brought back yet, I think I’ll leave that fucker to a generation that doesn’t get hypertension just hearing the name.
- neidu2 ( @neidu2@feddit.nl ) 24•18 days ago
Henry Fucking War Crimes Kissinger
He lived a long life and died peacefully, thinking he got away with it all. That only means bringing him back for punishment would be the perfect surprise of an afterlifetime.
- andyburke ( @andyburke@fedia.io ) 16•18 days ago
Can you explain more why you think Ford’s 40hr week is bad?
I thought it represented a pretty marked improvement compared to typical job requirements at the time?
Ford is no hero. A documented anti-semite with lots of other bad takes, but I am not clear on why you would pick his working hours as the thing to highlight.
Well, as I’ve said, he made that idea up in a time where it made sense and did well for it’s time. But it started to not be a feasible system every turn of the decade and by the time we’ve reached the 2000s, the idea simply isn’t cutting it anymore. Moreso in today’s time.
A lot of ideas that were made in the early 1900s through the 50s came about in a time where it made sense and did well, least for a while. But many variables since then just diminished it’s use. People aren’t making as much in 40 hours than they should and they aren’t making ends meet in those 5 days. People are expected now to have two jobs, more hours and no time for themselves or anyone around them.
- NotAnOnionAtAll ( @NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org ) 2•17 days ago
So his “crime” that you want to punish him for is that he improved things in a way that made sense in the context of his time instead of looking decades into the future and forcing a drastic change immediately long before society was anywhere near ready for it? Seriously?
- corsicanguppy ( @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ) English2•18 days ago
I thought it represented a pretty marked improvement compared to typical job requirements at the time?
To answer your question as written - based only on context - yes, you did think that.
- NutWrench ( @NutWrench@lemmy.ml ) 14•18 days ago
Henry Kissinger. Whenever you needed the most depraved, amoral, anti-democratic take on anything, whether it was the Vietnam war or the Khmer Rouge or the civil rights movement, you could always count on Henry farking Kissinger.
- some_guy ( @some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ) 11•18 days ago
Reagan and Thatcher.
- tetris11 ( @tetris11@lemmy.ml ) 1•17 days ago
they wouldn’t care unless you literally did a Christmas Carol-esque past/present/future consequence tale with them. They have enough fans here in the present to shield them from guilt.
- Iapar ( @Iapar@feddit.org ) 10•18 days ago
That fish that crawled onto land and spawned humanity.
- SkaveRat ( @SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ) 14•18 days ago
- Gamma ( @GammaGames@beehaw.org ) English1•18 days ago
Hell yeah let’s beat it like a piñata
- SubArcticTundra ( @SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ) 4•18 days ago
I bet that’s what the bigger fish were doing to it and why it crawled out in the first place.
- SkaveRat ( @SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ) 4•18 days ago
we just need to bully that nerd fish back into water
- SubArcticTundra ( @SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ) 2•17 days ago
Yes exactly, we need to be more unpleasant than the bigger fish in the water were being, and in so doing save humanity.
- demesisx ( @demesisx@infosec.pub ) English9•18 days ago
The Dulles brothers, Ronald Reagan, ALL billionaires, George Bush Sr., Joe Lieberman, Ben Netanyahu, Henry Kissinger, Hillary and Bill Clinton, David Brock, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Margaret Thatcher, (obviously) Trump, Miatch McConnell, Joe “Corn Pop” Biden, Jon Bolton, Colin Powell, Richard Nixon, Winston Churchill (for the Nakba), Woodrow Wilson, Theodor Herzl, and SO SO many more.
- wiase ( @wiase@discuss.online ) 8•18 days ago
Not a single person in this thread who says Hitler? Kind of disturbing tbh.
- BlueSquid0741 ( @BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org ) 5•18 days ago
Nobody would risk that fucker coming back for anything.
- Achyu ( @Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org ) 2•17 days ago
Not mentioning Mussolini, Unit 731, Churchill alogn with Hitler? Kind of disturbing tbh.
- ComradeSharkfucker ( @sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ) English8•18 days ago
Columbus, its personal, I just want to beat the shit out of him
- corsicanguppy ( @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ) English2•18 days ago
You’re from the Caribbean?
- ComradeSharkfucker ( @sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ) English6•18 days ago
I have a passion for mesoamerican history and art
- tetris11 ( @tetris11@lemmy.ml ) 1•17 days ago
at first I chuckled because I thought that was a coy euthamism for beating the shit out of someone, until I realise you were just answering the question
- dethedrus ( @dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 6•18 days ago
Phylis Schlafly, one of the main architects behind the modern religious right controlled GOP.
- Aussiemandeus ( @Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone ) 6•17 days ago
God
If he’s real (I don’t think so)
- Lux ( @Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 4•18 days ago
No one, then being dead is enough
- slacktoid ( @slacktoid@lemmy.ml ) English4•18 days ago
Churchill
- occultist8128 ( @occultist8128@infosec.pub ) English4•18 days ago
2nd indonesia president, soeharto.