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Turbonics ( Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org )  to Gaming · 2 years ago

Sony officially teases PlayStation 5 Pro

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  • Linktank ( Linktank@lemmy.today ) 
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    Just buy a gaming PC.

    • Guy Ingonito ( kandoh@reddthat.com ) 
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      I like to play my games knowing the developers optimized it for exactly the hardware I’m playing on.

      • Linktank ( Linktank@lemmy.today ) 
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        I like to play my games on hardware that I picked out and put together personally. Also I like that hardware to be using an OS of my choosing with as much expandable storage as I could possibly want. Also, I don’t like to give my money to companies that encourage exclusivity on their hardware.

        • Guy Ingonito ( kandoh@reddthat.com ) 
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          Yeah, if you enjoy the process of fiddling around with your system and installing cool new drivers and programs to get your game running then PC gaming is better no doubt.

          I just want to turn the game on and play though

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            But once you get it working, it works. It’s not as hard as you imagine, got a working Linux gaming setup in less than an hour after building my PC, and with software like EndeavourOS and Proton, you can get yours setup in such a short amount of time it’d blow your mind.

            • Guy Ingonito ( kandoh@reddthat.com ) 
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              It works, and then you don’t enjoy the game so it was all for nothing, or they release a patch that changes something so you have to do it all over again. And then you have that to look forward to with every new game you want to try out.

              I follow a lot of PC gamers on social media and they’re always crowd-sourcing technical questions about why this or that isn’t working like they expect.

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                I have no idea what you just said.

                Most games you just click play and they work. You don’t need to install drivers or programs or whatever you think everytime at all.

                If they release a dodgy patch or one you don’t like, you can just revert it. On console you are stuck with whatever they give you.

                Don’t like a game after a couple hours? Doesn’t work correctly? Refund it.

                Mainly its linux that will have issues you have to navigate and that is probably where most of the technical questions you come across root from. If you have Windows then 99% of games will just work as you expect.

                • Guy Ingonito ( kandoh@reddthat.com ) 
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                  • Batman: Arkham Knight

                  • Assassin’s Creed Unity

                  • Battlefield 4

                  • Homefront: The Revolution:

                  • Forza Horizon 3

                  • Total War: Rome 2

                  All high profile games, all had my social media feeds full of PC gamers complaining about how they ran like shit on their 4,000 dollar PCs.

                  You say you don’t know what I’m talking about, but then list every single hoop I’m trying to avoid with the tagline of ‘just jump through them!’.

              • burgersc12 ( burgersc12@mander.xyz ) 
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                Right, hate it when my gaming PC gives me depression lol.

          • ☂️- ( umbrella@lemmy.ml ) 
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          • Linktank ( Linktank@lemmy.today ) 
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            You make it sound like any of that is difficult or extremely time consuming, which it isn’t. The payout far exceeds the price for entry.

            • Guy Ingonito ( kandoh@reddthat.com ) 
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              I do PC game, so let me give you a counterpoint:

              I have GeForce Experience which manages my drivers, but after a windows update awhile back suddenly the updates fail at like 80%, no idea why.

              Now I’m just barely smart enough that I could probably fix it if I sat down for an hour or two and did some googling.

              But why would I do that? I can just hit the power button on my Xbox and not have to troubleshoot an obscure problem.

              • Linktank ( Linktank@lemmy.today ) 
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                You are paying hundreds of dollars to avoid minor driver issues that most people don’t even face. That’s your choice, but I can’t say that I see the sense in it.

                • Guy Ingonito ( kandoh@reddthat.com ) 
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                  I spent 2 grand on the PC that gives me minor driver issues that only I experience. The hundreds of dollars I spent on the Xbox that works just like everyone else’s Xbox seems like a bargain to me.

      • SoJB ( SoJB@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Both major consoles literally have multiple versions with differing performance lmfao

        • Guy Ingonito ( kandoh@reddthat.com ) 
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          As opposed to PC which has infinite variations

      • Policeshootout ( Policeshootout@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Typically they still have performance issues though? I haven’t played on consoles since Xbox 360, other than the odd Nintendo game. I spent thousands of dollars on 360 and PS3 games and hardware and have none of it now. But my entire PC library is still playable.

        • burgersc12 ( burgersc12@mander.xyz ) 
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          This is why pirating what you already owned should be morally correct :)

        • Guy Ingonito ( kandoh@reddthat.com ) 
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          Now the games are attached to your windows and Sony accounts so they’ll follow you around as much as steam games do

          • burgersc12 ( burgersc12@mander.xyz ) 
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            Oh yes my fully disc based games are all on my account now of course, not like they’d make you buy them again right?!?

      • Mongostein ( Mongostein@lemmy.ca ) 
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        I’m with ya. When it’s gaming time, I just want it to work. I don’t want to be fiddling with settings constantly.

        That being said, I do prefer RPGs and RTSs much more with a keyboard and mouse, so I’ll usually play those on my computer, but that’s not such a problem any more with keyboard and mouse being supported by consoles.

        • Guy Ingonito ( kandoh@reddthat.com ) 
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          Totally, mouse and keyboard are very clutch for those genres

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆 ( Kolanaki@yiffit.net ) 
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    What even is the point, though? The number of games made specifically for the PS5 can be counted on 1 hand and it’s not like those have significant performance issues that warrant even more powerful hardware.

    Do any of these bigger numbers mean one would at least be able to play an existing game in 4k with ray tracing at higher than 30fps?

    • Turbonics ( Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org ) OP
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      PSVR maybe

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    ah yes, for professionals

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  • Cloudless ☼ ( cloudless@lemmy.cafe ) 
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    Can it time travel using its negative clock speed?

  • DoucheBagMcSwag ( DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    I don’t see no fucking disc drive here, bucko.

    • Turbonics ( Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org ) OP
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      You will own nothing and you will be happy

      • sunzu2 ( sunzu2@thebrainbin.org ) Banned
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        You can get one is my understanding but this sentiment aint wrong either. this is the transition stage.

    • shinratdr ( shinratdr@lemmy.ca ) 
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      The current Slim PS5 also doesn’t have a disc drive, you can just buy it in a bundle and attach the optional one.

      Honestly for manufacturing this makes way more sense, to ship one SKU and then make them all upgradable to disc. It’s also kind of nice that if you buy a digital one and want disc in the future you can just buy the drive.

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    • Blackmist ( Blackmist@feddit.uk ) 
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      I’m not sure the disc drive can be saved at this point. There’s big games that didn’t even come out on disc, like BG3.

  • Coelacanth ( Coelacanth@feddit.nu ) 
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    Does it have enough games yet?

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    What’s the point of consoles getting more powerful? Shouldn’t affordability be the main target at this point?

    Their main target audience is couch gaming on TVs, which are usually only 60Hz, something the PS5 and XSX can do comfortably.

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      • thejml ( thejml@lemm.ee ) 
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        Enter Nintendo. Crappy 9yo SOC, sure, whatever, here are some fun games that aren’t graphically advanced.

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          • smeg ( smeg@feddit.uk ) 
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            If by always you mean the last 15-20 years, plenty more warring from the likes of Nintendo and Sega before then!

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          • Mongostein ( Mongostein@lemmy.ca ) 
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            Nah, it was Coleco/Atari - Coleco lost

            Then Nintendo/Atari - Atari lost

            Then Sega/Nintendo

            Then Sega/Nintendo/Sony - Sega lost

            Then Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft - Nintendo lost, but pivoted to play a different game.

            Then you can throw things in there like 3DO and Jaguar Turbo FX, but they didn’t do so got to be considered contenders in the “war”

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              • Mongostein ( Mongostein@lemmy.ca ) 
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                You must be younger than me. I grew up in the 90s and the Sega/Nintendo rivalry was intense.

                I think it was the SNES/Genesis era when “who has the better graphics” started to matter.

                At the time, I was actually of the opinion that the N64 was a step down from the SNES. Sure the graphics were 3D, but they looked like shit even then. Nintendo really fucked up by sticking with cartridges that generation.

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        • warm ( warm@kbin.earth ) 
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          Also Nintendo: They are $70. Want an old game? Also $70. Sales? What are those?

          Consoles are such a scam when you think about it, but their low barrier to entry carries them (along with the marketing of course).

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            They don’t have asmany sales, but I’ve definitely scored some good prices on games here and there. They often run 20+% off on first party titles and non-first party gets deep discounts (I scored Rabbids for $4 a while back). I just wish they’d do the equivalent of PS Greatest Hits for like $20.

            For some situations a console is nicer than a PC. Solid, consistent, single unit I can just connect to a TV and play. I’ve got a PC and I prefer it, but the average console is cheaper than my PC was and simpler for non-geek family members to boot up and play on a whim.

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              They sell tens of millions.

    • Blackmist ( Blackmist@feddit.uk ) 
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      TVs have been available in 120Hz and VRR for a while now. Even my 2017 OLED supports 120Hz, albeit only at 1080p.

      That said, I don’t see the need to chase that with more expensive hardware. Any game with a choice of performance vs resolution, I find myself swapping to performance mode. I can see extra frames, I struggle to see extra pixels.

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        There are a lot of ‘fake’ 120Hz+ TVs you have to watch out for though. The real ones are expensive.

        The point being really, most people dont upgrade their TVs at all, for as long as the picture is good. Consoles have the hardware todo 120Hz right now.

        Thats another good point, when you are sat so far away from the screen, the resolution becomes less important.

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    Like, how are they teasing it? Light petting? Double-entendres? Flicking its eject button?

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    Amusing that aside from the GPU TFLOPS the rest of it is a slight improvement if at all

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      Looks like the biggest improvement is the addition of the ray tracing cores?

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        But both ps5 and Xbox had rt core, no?, what I understood is that the normal cores are RDNA3 and the RT cores RDNA4, ps5 no-pro has everything (including the RT cores) RDNA2

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          Ah your probably correct - but just wanted to denote the inclusion of the “RDNA4 RT”

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    Is it going to be the size of a small fridge like the base model?

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      The PS5, while bigger than last entries, is hardly the size of a small fridge.

      More like a floor air conditioner.

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      My money’s on bigger

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    New one will be a meter tall and run on gasoline.

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      And look like someone sat on a. Dunkin donuts 12 pack box.

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    To play PS4 games in enhanced mode!

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    Hopefully there will be a disk version. I’m looking to upgrade.

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    “Legitimate interest”

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    would really love playstation to come out with a hybrid switch/steam deck design because i honestly can’t comprehend having a console that i can’t take with me and play on the go anymore.

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