I cringe every time I hear another guy refer to women like this
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It’s fine if it’s consistent imo.
Men and women - 👍
Males and females - 👍
Boys and girls - 👍
Guys and gals - 👍
Men and females - 👎
Men and girls - 👎
Men and chicks - 👎
Seadogs and wenches - 🏴☠️
Comrades - ☭
Tamales and females
Guys and Dolls - 👐 (jazz hands)
Men and chicks - 👎
What about “dudes and chicks?”
Dudes and dudes
The ONLY time it’s fine is if it’s in a medical report or scientific paper. Written by actual doctors or scientists. And it is done to dehumanize the subject to make it easier for, say, a medical examiner to write a report without breaking down.
Using male and female for people is inheritantly dehumanizing, and that’s only ok in very specific circumstances.
Bros and broads - 🤔
Folks 👨🌾
Dicks and chicks. Like the band.
They sound like Ferengi lmao
“hUmOn FeEeMaLe!”
Don’t even get me started on how the average right-wing/incel/pilled male is basically already an honorary ferengi…
Sharpen their teeth and give them some giant lobes and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. Some of them even shave their heads already…
So glad someone other than me is pointing this out!
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I sometimes hear furries mess up and refer to women as “female humans” or something along those lines, but that’s mainly because furries usually think in “male/female” instead of “man/woman” (or at least all the ones I’ve met seem to). For an example, “Cat-woman” can be kinda ambiguous and (at least imo) sounds kinda odd since “woman” is usually exclusive to female humans. In this example, are we talking about a woman who’s obsessed with cats, a woman who is a cat (a female feline with human features), an anime cat girl (a woman with cat features), or a DC Comics character (a woman who dresses up like a cat)?
Otherwise though, yeah. Yeah, especially, especially when someone refers to women as “females” as in “check out those females over there”. That’s creepy. Even furries would rather say something like, “check out those gals over there”, regardless of context.
Edit: also, does this hypothetical person say “males” too, or is it “man/female”? “Man/female” is a massive red flag.
As a woman who is bothered by the “females” thing, “female humans” doesn’t sound bad to me. It’s because “female” is used as an adjective here. It’s the same reason “black women” sounds fine, but “blacks” sounds bad. It’s reducing someone to their gender only, as if they’re not humans, too. It feels otherimg.
Thanks for writing that out. I’d never quite groked why it (and similar wording) sounded wrong: reducing a person to an adjective.
but that’s mainly because furries usually think in “male/female”
I wonder if that’s because that’s how they’re tagged on e621, or if they’re tagged that way because furries already referred to them in those terms.
Whatever you do, don’t google male chicks. God the food industry is awful
Well depends on context i guess. Like saying “my women teacher” just doesn’t sound as good as “my female teacher”
That’s an adjective, that’s fine. It’s about using “females” as a noun.
Yep. Same with saying “a Trans Woman” versus “a Trans”.
“the transes”
A trans what? m2f? f2m?
Transformers, both the electrical and cybertronian variant
Does it matter, tho? Does every trans person need to be defined by their assigned gender? Do they need to be inserted in a binary system?
I am a genderless blob :3
The most offensive part is using the noun as plural when it’s meant to be singular, as in your example
I had a woman boss who would always refer to women as female (like “you know the manager of that department is a female?!”). I’m still not sure how I feel about it.
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I know it’s a really awkward phrasing, but “I had a boss, who was a woman…” sounded even more awkward to me than just “woman boss” 🤷♂️.
I had a female boss.
Adjective is fine, using it as noun is icky
counterpoint:
man and men, just like woman and women sound the same when speaking
male and males, female and females is clearer
Just say menses and womenses when in the plural
Gollum speak nice
I love this. I might actually start doing this unironically.
Lol, menses.
I’m sorry, but I did the thing where I write a comment and then delete it because I assume no one cares about my opinion
since you replied though, I should make it clear what I said to give context
I said that man and men, as well as woman and women, sound the same when speaking. male and males, female and females, make a clearer distinction
counterpoint:
I don’t want you to call me female or male. Creeps call me female and bigots call me male.
how do you pronounce man/men/woman/women? man and men might be confusable but woman and women are very different pronunciations
Enunciate.
Isn’t it /mæn/ and /mɛn/, /ˈwʊm ən/ and /ˈwɪm ɪn/? Can be a bit hard to differenciate in the first case, but the second pair is very different.
Urg, i get second hand embarrassment everytime i hear/read it, i’s disgusting lol
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