More dataisdepressing than dataisbeautiful
- kingthrillgore ( @KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ) 195•2 months ago
- Spacehooks ( @Spacehooks@reddthat.com ) English15•2 months ago
I sometimes think they turn conservative because women won’t date them.
- JovialMicrobial ( @JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee ) 31•2 months ago
I’m pretty sure women don’t want to date people who have any sort of disposition that leans towards hating them or believing that women are lesser than men.
Unfortunately, a lot of men learned that way of thinking early in life(from family and/or media) and it ruins any attempt at a relationship, then they blame women and run to the very people who set them up to fail for validation, or find new ones like that sex trafficker with the pizza boxes, or that canadian psychologist who sugar coats sexism online. Repeat ad nauseum.
- Echo Dot ( @echodot@feddit.uk ) 14•2 months ago
I have an old high school friend who is very much into the whole Andrew Tate thing. His parents were separated, I don’t know the details as to why, but I do know that his father was a lot more stable than his mother, and I do sometimes wonder if he had lived with his father, if he would have turned out better.
He also thinks the earth is flat because… otherwise a ball would roll off a table. QED.
So not exactly firing an all cylinders to begin with.
- Ragnarok314159 ( @Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz ) 7•2 months ago
“Divorced dad energy” is one of those meme things that everyone likes to make fun of when a dude does anything, but no one likes to address that same poison when divorced moms act like fools.
My mother would drag me to various groups that would absolutely shit on “men” constantly, and I got to hear that constantly. It was weird growing up in that environment, but luckily for me it was before the redpill trash all over the internet. Managed to find some good friends in high school
- Spacehooks ( @Spacehooks@reddthat.com ) English1•2 months ago
That’s a interesting point. My mother was substantially more mentally stable when I was a child then when my siblings were born.
- krnl386 ( @krnl386@lemmy.ca ) 1•2 months ago
That was the mainstream 70-80 years ago. Late 90’s and early 2000’s largely (not completely; nothing is perfect) corrected that, although there was still work to be done. For a brief couple of decades, society enjoyed unadulterated equality underpinned by meritocracy.
Nowadays men are checking out because modern society overcorrected to the point of them feeling rejected and hated… and unfortunately shithead lowlives like Tate capitalize on that. There are also academics like Peterson whose messaging is too nuanced for the average liberal to comprehend without bias (that’s legitimately difficult to do especially when one’s doctrine actively teaches and encourages ignorance and rejection of opposing views) - kind of like the reverse Tate fanboy, i.e. flaming liberal commie/socialist that would rather dump oil on priceless paintings in museums and run around naked while screaming in people faces while blocking major arterial streets in a busy city in the name of climate change or veganism or some other shit. So on one hand you have Tate fanboys (borderline classical Nazis) and on the other extreme of the spectrum you have overgrown narcissists (basically grown-ass adult toddlers that never developed a proper superego, to use Freudian parlance). I wouldn’t expect an adult toddler with deep-rooted indoctrinated biases to be able to consume or critically analyze any kind of nuanced opinion that did not 100% align with their own… heck, one SJW blue haired leftie with a law degree told me that Peterson’s original argument was that he did not accept trans people, and were genuinely surprised to learn that his sticking point was about compelled speech (weaponized anti-misgendering legislation), rather than being or nor being transgender.
So from the “incel” perspective (and I am usijg that term rather cynically here, as today’s “incel” is basically the 90’s average 20-30 year old man with classical liberal leanings) on one hand, you have people screaming at you how you’re the problem, you’re a nazi, an incel, blah blah blah, and on the other hand you have people who remind you of the “good old days” when you could settle down, buy a home with a picket fence, a car, a dog/cat, a couple of kids and live your damn life in peace… with a bit of 40-60’s sexism/nazi-ism (depending on who you listen to) sprinkled in. Now whom are you going to listen to as a cis white straight male (the majority of males, BTW)? Hmmm… I wonder…
- Gamma ( @GammaGames@beehaw.org ) English4•2 months ago
academics like peterson
LMFAO
- Kalysta ( @Kalysta@lemm.ee ) 3•2 months ago
Didn’t he recently lose his license to practice because he was saying bullshit that no real psychiatrist would agree with?
- Gamma ( @GammaGames@beehaw.org ) English3•2 months ago
Not yet! He has to go to training first
- Kalysta ( @Kalysta@lemm.ee ) 2•2 months ago
Didn’t he recently lose his license to practice because he was saying bullshit that no real psychiatrist would agree with?
- DancingBear ( @DancingBear@midwest.social ) 7•2 months ago
In the age of social media I imagine people are actually a lot more antisocial than we used to be…. And if young men and young women are all online more now and actually go out to interact in person less than we used to, this would make it a lot more difficult for young men to interact with the young women long enough to ask them out….
- Spacehooks ( @Spacehooks@reddthat.com ) English5•2 months ago
Online is heavily skewed in women’s favor unfortunately. I had a female coworker that had 100+ matches on bumble and kept complaining how hard it was too keep track of. She wasn’t even very pretty and she had an empty pot for head. Meanwhile male coworkers really struggle. No surprise This will make some males bitter and lash out. Even if they do find a partner Worst part is if the social skills are bad it is a bad relationship. I hope we are not seeing a universe 25 style collapse.
- DancingBear ( @DancingBear@midwest.social ) 6•2 months ago
I can’t remember which app it was, but I tried online dating over a decade ago. I noticed I wasn’t getting very many responses to any messages I sent out, and it was basically after saying yes to everyone and I had spent some time on the app, so I got to the point where I just messaged everyone a generic opener….
I talked to my female roommate at the time and I got a couple generic photos of her, she was a young mid 20’s woman who was very pretty but idk average for a young beautiful woman.
I created a new profile for myself, and also a second profile for her, I let her choose the most attractive photos of me and I chose some dorky not very attractive but still cute I guess photos of her….
She had ten messages before we were even able to upload the first photo after just creating the account.
This doesn’t mean that she got messages from guys who were someone she would consider dating. It just means she got a lot of messages. I think guys don’t realize how many messages the women get. They have to wade through hundreds of “hi how are you doing” messages before they can even start a conversation. Whereas the guys have to send out messages that are unique and capture the attention of ladies to get a conversation started. Neither is ideal, it’s just how it is
- Spacehooks ( @Spacehooks@reddthat.com ) English2•2 months ago
That’s very true and likely why she felt so overwhelmed. No one is really winning. She would have had a really good match in there but drowned in a sea of options.
- DancingBear ( @DancingBear@midwest.social ) 2•2 months ago
In this case we only left the app open for a couple hours that afternoon before we deleted it, but it’s just anecdotal evidence that show if we are specifically talking about online dating the problems are just as bad for either sex if we are talking about cis heteronormative relationships
- Spacehooks ( @Spacehooks@reddthat.com ) English1•2 months ago
A really sad point. Though I think drowning in option is better for self esteem than 0. If males had plenty I doubt we would see such a trend.
- DancingBear ( @DancingBear@midwest.social ) 6•2 months ago
I wasn’t specifically talking about online dating, but women are generally more desired by men than vice versa, whether online or in person.
I can’t imagine online dating to be useful than for more than a handful of people in my opinion.
I was more saying since we are all online more, we are all interacting in person a lot less, which allows for more organic interactions…
- Spacehooks ( @Spacehooks@reddthat.com ) English1•2 months ago
Yeah I agree. Wanting to Go back the good old days is what is causing this trend. Though Realistically all the social skills in the world won’t bag you the girl if you are average right now. I knew a few coworkers that wouldn’t even talk to a guy unless he was a 666 man. 6 figures, 6 feet, 6 pack. No surprise they are single. I wonder if their POV changed overtime, they were in early 20s at the time. I know my old roommate lowered her standards super hard over 30 to bag a husband.
- DancingBear ( @DancingBear@midwest.social ) 5•2 months ago
Anecdotal evidence is not the same as actual data across populations
- Spacehooks ( @Spacehooks@reddthat.com ) English2•2 months ago
The Sample size is rather small from personal experience. I am curious if such data exists.
- krnl386 ( @krnl386@lemmy.ca ) 2•2 months ago
Well, that and also because the left basically hates them. Hearing narratives like “men are privileged, racist, homophobic, and all the other isms, phobes and ists” combined with DEI initiatives that invalidate and sabotage their hard work and achievements makes them want to disconnect from these groups and modern societal “norms.”
Why would you date someone who resents and hates you?
- sebsch ( @sebsch@discuss.tchncs.de ) 75•2 months ago
The opposite to conservative is progressive, not liberal
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 13•2 months ago
The opposite is Socialism, not progressivism.
- some_guy ( @some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ) 51•2 months ago
As women gain independence, frightened men turn to patriarchal solutions. Hence a turd like JD Vance spouting hateful and controlling rhetoric on podcasts and Ahole Tate brainwashing adolescent boys. Fuck these people.
- DancingBear ( @DancingBear@midwest.social ) 4•2 months ago
Young men and young women haven’t been around long enough to have seen anything change like your suggesting. If that were the case it would be older women and men who are changing
- AlexWIWA ( @AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml ) English1•2 months ago
The study about low skill gamers being the most likely to be sexist over voice chat will forever be on my mind.
- Lad ( @AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com ) 43•2 months ago
When I think of all the women & girls in my life that I care about, I remember that I could never be a conservative. It would be a betrayal.
Assuming this is accurate, I’m pleased to see men in the UK bucking the trend.
- Wanderer ( @Wanderer@lemm.ee ) 3•2 months ago
This is out of date.
People are losing faith rapidly in the left because they don’t seem to be for the everyday working class Briton like they used to be.
There is a big shift going to Reform now largely because they want to reduce immigration. The left deny the situation and the right have claimed they will reduce it every year then increase.
People are flooding to the “far right”* because they don’t seen the main parties address the main issue they want addressing and have been talking about for decades at this point, generations even.
_* not actually far right. But the left love throwing that term around to anyone that has a different opinion to them. They just want lower immigration, which historically has been a left leaning ideology
- NigelFrobisher ( @NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ) 17•2 months ago
This is young people, not red-faced beast men fighting outside the kebab shop with pool cues.
- Wanderer ( @Wanderer@lemm.ee ) 1•2 months ago
Do you know something about the UK I don’t?
Please tell me about how the Tories link into this graph?
- fakeman_pretendname ( @fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk ) 6•2 months ago
The graph appears to show that from approximately 2010 (Libdem & Tory coalition) onwards for women, and a few years later (when we somehow got a full Tory government) for men, the younger people shown on the graph, said or thought something along the lines of “this Tory government is awful and we need to move in the opposite direction”.
- Wanderer ( @Wanderer@lemm.ee ) 1•2 months ago
Its about not voting for the tories. More than it is anything else.
Now there are more right options that will swing back. Hence how it is out of date.
- fakeman_pretendname ( @fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk ) 1•2 months ago
I agree that “not voting for the Tories” was pretty much the main driver, but these are not “new options”.
The Brexit Party’s “surprise” increase this year, was in many ways just returning to the 10-15% that they received as UKIP in 2015.
In the two elections in between, they agreed to not contest many of the Tory seats, to not risk “splitting the vote” to help keep “evil Jeremy” out of power.
The Tory vote + Brexit Party vote, added together, is lower than the number who voted for either Boris Johnson, Theresa May or 2017 Jeremy Corbyn. Fewer people voted for Keir Starmer than Jeremy Corbyn in 2017 or 2019 - so technically the biggest change in vote is probably “did not/unable to vote this year”, with an increase of 3 million.
As ever, “didn’t/unable to vote this year” won yet another successive landslide victory of about 20 million, or about the same as the top three parties added together.
Anyway, apologies for the tangent. The graph is particularly looking at younger people, who are on average more left leaning, and have become more so in the last 40 years. Though the recent mainstream politics/media shift towards the far right is absolutely terrifying, I don’t think it’s reflected in the young people shown in this graph.
- Echo Dot ( @echodot@feddit.uk ) 16•2 months ago
Look I don’t know how to tell you this but just because you live in a bubble doesn’t mean everybody else does.
That is not “a big shift in the UK towards reform”, don’t be daft. They only have 4 MPs only two of which ever bothered turning up, they are about as politically relevant as my underwear.
Also Reform absolutely are far right they are basically Nazis, albeit brainless lazy incompetent ones. You need to go outside and interact with normal members of the human race rather than whoever it is you’re talking to on the “I’m not racist but…” Facebook group
- Wanderer ( @Wanderer@lemm.ee ) 2•2 months ago
14% of the vote from a brand new party, with signs that’s increasing. It not insignificant
- Echo Dot ( @echodot@feddit.uk ) 2•2 months ago
You’re taking data out of context. You can make it say anything when you do that.
Labour won with fewer votes than they got in the last election which they lost. That tells me that this was mostly a protest vote people weren’t voting for any particular party that were voting for not to the conservatives.
But in the 2025 election the conservatives won’t be in power and so there won’t be a protest vote against them. If reform do well in those elections that would be evidence of a shift until then the balance of probability is simply that they were the obvious processed vote for the right-wing inclined that did not want to vote for the conservatives.
You cannot draw any conclusions from the results of such a politically unstable period.
Additionally I’m not letting you off the hook for in any way trying to suggest that the reform party are in any way shape or form anything but a bunch of bigoted misogynists. How dare you suggest that they are simply a right-wing political party that the other parties are trying to lambast in an attempt to discredit them. They are far right extremists, stop trying to defend them.
- Wanderer ( @Wanderer@lemm.ee ) 1•1 month ago
The average person wants lower immigration plain and simple.
That’s what reform is largely winning votes on. Something that historically has been a left view.
They are no where near as bad as everyone makes out. People are trying to paint them as Nazis.
- Echo Dot ( @echodot@feddit.uk ) 1•1 month ago
Nigel farage literally (as in he actually did this) posed in front of a poster that was styled on Nazi propaganda. The only people making them out to be Nazis are themselves, they are being Nazis and people are pointing it out, that’s not people defaming them, that’s people pointing out that they are being Nazis. People like you are allow the hard right thrive, the bigots and racists are allowed to exist because apologists like you make excuses for them.
Please be better. Or if you can’t be better at least stop spreading your uninformed opinions on the internet, no one needs to hear the opinions of a Nazi apologist.
https://images.app.goo.gl/pL7xhiTGuwQPxKaKA
Here is a link in case you might want to possibly educate yourself. I recommended it because currently you sound like a tit.
- Wanderer ( @Wanderer@lemm.ee ) 1•1 month ago
Wow being against uncontrolled immigration is so Nazi.
Literally no other person could think immigration should go down for any reason or any amount without being a Nazi.
I’m really glad you showed me a photo of someone concerned with immigration when it’s the number one issue in the country. Really proved that, that guy is a Nazi.
I do think he’s a dickhead. But Nazis and reform are different.
- 🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖 ( @muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee ) English1•2 months ago
People like you are why we cannot discuss political ideas without being put into a bucket and given some horrific label. Being conservative doesnt make u sexist some conservative views are sexist same as some progressive view are sexist. Stop spouting hate like politics is a football team and practice critical thinking where you can take ideas from all perspectives.
- davel [he/him] ( @davel@lemmy.ml ) English32•2 months ago
🌳 Die? No. We lost them, and now we cannot find them.
- Feydaikin ( @Faydaikin@beehaw.org ) 6•2 months ago
Poor Treebeard…
- menemen ( @menemen@lemmy.ml ) 22•2 months ago
Difficult to assess this info without knowing how the data was created.
- jol ( @jol@discuss.tchncs.de ) 15•2 months ago
Also hard to believe the American average is +20 leaning lib. The country is represented by a fascist party and a centrist party, and anything more left than the centrist party is considered “far left”.
- zarenki ( @zarenki@lemmy.ml ) 3•2 months ago
The Y axis here is not an absolute international political compass. It measures which political party each person favors, and judging by that country’s local standards categorizes that party as either left or right.
A rising number in the US chart means a larger number of people prefer democrats over republicans. It doesn’t mean that people’s stances are necessarily moving further left. Similarly, it’s no coincidence that the inflection point where UK numbers rise by a lot correspond to Brexit: the party seen as responsible for the unpopular change lost a lot of support, but that doesn’t mean the population has so sharply moved drastically more progressive in such a short time.
- AlexWIWA ( @AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml ) English2•2 months ago
The US population is largely some variety of “liberal” meaning vaguely left. The problem is the structure of our government favors land, not population.
- NoneOfUrBusiness ( @NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io ) 19•2 months ago
What the fuck South Korea? Also you just know that sudden rise in liberal men in the UK is the Tories’ doing.
- Fidel_Cashflow ( @Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml ) 17•2 months ago
oh yeah, South Korea has gone off the rails recently. lots of news stories about men assaulting women for the assumption that they’re feminists, anti-woman politicians being elected, women losing their jobs for being (or assumed to be) feminists, it’s all Very Not Good.
- kittenzrulz123 ( @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 9•2 months ago
The Tories are really good at convincing people to hate them, fuck the Tories
- Echo Dot ( @echodot@feddit.uk ) 5•2 months ago
It’s very easy because the Tories have recently decided that the reason people don’t like them is because they’re not fascist enough, so they’ve doubled down and decided to be more fascist. At least trying to be, but it’s difficult to be fascist when you lost power due to being awful fascists.
Weirdly people didn’t want that, and so now they’re even less popular.
- kittenzrulz123 ( @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 1•2 months ago
People have always hated the Tories, however I think the recent hate can go back to a particular prime minister whose grave is now a gender neutral bathroom.
- Echo Dot ( @echodot@feddit.uk ) 2•2 months ago
In the north of England certainly. Not sure how much people in London care about Thatcher.
I was thinking more recently about Boris and his various illegal activities. Oh and the crashing of the economy by the disability hire. Or the fact that our most recent excuse for a Tory prime minister basically allowed the Extreme right-wing free reign because he was incapable of standing up to them.
- TimewornTraveler ( @TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ) 8•2 months ago
Anti-feminism has taken a huge hold in SK. it’s partially related to the draft, but that’s nothing new. women have been getting increased respect over the past decades, esp in sharp contrast to the pre-war era when women didnt even deserve names beyond “X’s mom”
- acargitz ( @theacharnian@lemmy.ca ) 19•2 months ago
It’s weird that the axes of where “centre” is remain stable over time. Can you imagine comparing “left vs right” between the 1890s and the 1920s? Like a bunch of stuff happened in between, history happened, and that tends to redefine left, right and centre.
- selokichtli ( @selokichtli@lemmy.ml ) 17•2 months ago
The important thing here is to know how did they measure young people’s political ideologies. I wouldn’t expect it was self-perceived as currently, people have a hard time admitting they are conservative compared to admitting they sympathize with a conservative party.
If it was determined by a questionnaire, it would be interesting to see what questions were included. Maybe the questions weren’t well planned and that’s it. Maybe they equalled feminist takes to
progressiveliberal ones, which is something that can be discussed. In this case, I would be picky about the origin of the graphics.- Mia ( @lapislazuli@feddit.org ) English4•2 months ago
This seems to be the original source of this graphic. But it just says “FT analysis of General Social Surveys of Korea, Germany & US […]”
- Don_alForno ( @Don_alForno@feddit.org ) 16•2 months ago
The gap sounds plausible, but I highly doubt the overall positions relative to 0.
E.g., the Federal Republic of Germany has had conservative chancellors for 51 years out of the 75 since it was founded. We did not have a constant left majority (I assume that is what they mean by liberal, since the actual sense of the term doesn’t make sense as an opposite to “conservative”).
Edit: I fucked up, this is only about people below 30.
- 5C5C5C ( @5C5C5C@programming.dev ) 14•2 months ago
These graphs only cover the demographic of 18-29 year olds, which historically do lean heavily towards progressive.
- Don_alForno ( @Don_alForno@feddit.org ) 2•2 months ago
That explains it and I did indeed overlook it. Thanks for the heads up.
- kittenzrulz123 ( @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 13•2 months ago
As a Transfem, it’s because conservatives suck (granted I despise all forms of liberalism).
Also why the hell is liberalism considered “left-wing” its center right at most.
Political education in the US and many of the countries that hold these polls is awful. I’d trust a middle-schooler from Cuba, Vietnam, or China more than an ivy-league-educated polysci graduate when it comes to political awareness.
- ShaunaTheDead ( @ShaunaTheDead@fedia.io ) 2•2 months ago
Generally, a supporter of the political philosophy liberalism. Liberals may be politically left or right but tend to be centrist.
- kittenzrulz123 ( @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•2 months ago
Liberalism supports capitalism, nothing about it is left wing. Hell even Social Liberalism isn’t left wing.
- ShaunaTheDead ( @ShaunaTheDead@fedia.io ) 1•2 months ago
It sounds like you’re thinking of Libertarianism which is a subset of liberalism, but they are distinct.
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law. Liberals espouse various and often mutually warring views depending on their understanding of these principles but generally support private property, market economies, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion. Liberalism is frequently cited as the dominant ideology of modern history.
- kittenzrulz123 ( @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 2•2 months ago
“private property”
Yeah, not left wing.
- ShaunaTheDead ( @ShaunaTheDead@fedia.io ) 2•2 months ago
One thing not left wing and it’s all right wing? Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
- kittenzrulz123 ( @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 1•2 months ago
Liberalism supports capitalism and private property, thats not left wing. Leftism isnt “when government does stuff”, its worker owned economies and true progress (no unions dont count as a worker owned economy). There are centrist ideologies which aren’t strictly speaking left or right like Social Democracy and Georgism but Liberalism isn’t in that category.
- LowleeKun ( @LowleeKun@feddit.org ) Deutsch12•2 months ago
Ohh wait, this is actually good for my dating chances. Gotta find the good in the bad…
- Fontasia ( @Fontasia@feddit.nl ) 11•2 months ago
Hey look if you start taking away white male privilege they freak out when they find out people of other races, genders and creeds are better than them, who knew?
- sweetpotato ( @sweetpotato@lemmy.ml ) 2•2 months ago
I’m surprised most comments here try to give any other explanation but this.
- jerkface ( @jerkface@lemmy.ca ) English2•2 months ago
Then why are young men being disproportionately affected? Older men are not swinging like this.
- Fontasia ( @Fontasia@feddit.nl ) 5•2 months ago
Older men are generally already in a position of benefit, locked in a system where they cannot be taken down from their position of power. Reforms are coming at the beginning of the chain (entrance to university, internships and early job opportunities). Young men in families where their father/grandfather were in systems that benefited them - and also nepotism - have the understanding they will need to do very little to succeed. They have not put the effort in because they were told they would not have to compete.
Have a look at old laws for where you live in the world. Find out whether your mother or grandmother actually had the opportunity for higher education, or even whether she could get/keep a job after she had children and then form your own conclusions from there.
- I Cast Fist ( @ICastFist@programming.dev ) 11•2 months ago
Sauce, for those interested - https://www.ft.com/content/29fd9b5c-2f35-41bf-9d4c-994db4e12998
In the US, Gallup data shows that after decades where the sexes were each spread roughly equally across liberal and conservative world views, women aged 18 to 30 are now 30 percentage points more liberal than their male contemporaries. That gap took just six years to open up.
So it might be worth taking it with a pinch of salt because I’m betting it’s using the very dumbed down “liberal vs conservative” 'murican political view. Maybe skew all results down 3-6 points.
- Wahots ( @Wahots@pawb.social ) 11•2 months ago
What’s the source? I wanna learn about the weird unexpected drops in some countries.
- s3p5r ( @s3p5r@lemm.ee ) English7•2 months ago
For anyone else also interested, I went and had a look at the links Dessalines kindly provided.
The source on the graphs says “Sources: Daniel Cox, Survey Center on American Life; Gallup Poll Social Series; FT analysis of General Social Surveys of Korea, Germany & US and the British Election Study. US data is respondent’s stated ideology. Other countries show support for liberal and conservative parties All figures are adjusted for time trend in the overall population.” Where FT is financial times.
It’s not clear how the words “liberal” and “conservative” were chosen, whether they’re intended to mean “socially progressive” and “socially traditional” or have other connotations bound with the political parties too, and whether the original data chose those descriptions or if they’re FT’s inference as being “close enough” for an American audience.
Unfortunately the FT data site is refusing to let me look at them without “legitimate interest” advertising cookies so I can’t tell you much more or if there’s any detail on methodology.