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 Sauvandu60   ( @Sauvandu60@lemmy.ml )  to Technology@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

Russia says it might build its own Linux community after removal of several kernel maintainers.

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Russia says it might build its own Linux community after removal of several kernel maintainers.

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 Sauvandu60   ( @Sauvandu60@lemmy.ml )  to Technology@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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Russia says it might build its own Linux community after removal of several kernel maintainers
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“It is important to create conditions for cooperation, which can help develop a unique product,” Russia's digital ministry said in response to 11 developers being delisted from maintaining the Linux kernel.
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  •  Em Adespoton   ( @adespoton@lemmy.ca ) 
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    They haven’t been removed from the community though — just the maintainers list. Now they need someone else’s review to commit code to the kernel.

    Personally, I think even maintainers should be required to have that — you can be the committer for pre-reviewed code from others, but not just be able to check anything you want in, no matter your reputation (even if you’re Linus). That way a security breach is less likely to cause havoc.

    •  Ephera   ( @Ephera@lemmy.ml ) 
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      I find that difficult. Aside from code reviews, often times your job as a maintainer is:

      • getting a refactor or code cleanup in while everyone’s asleep
      • shuffling commits around between branches
      • fixing the CI toolchain
      • rolling back or repairing a broken change
      • unfucking the repo
      • fixing a security vulnerability

      A required review slows all of these tasks to a crawl. I do agree that the kernel is important enough that it might be worth the trade-off.
      But at the same, I do not feel like I could do my (non-kernel) maintainer job without direct commit access…

      •  Em Adespoton   ( @adespoton@lemmy.ca ) 
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        I feel your pain. I have maintainer roles for a few projects where things could be slowed down by a week or more if I didn’t have direct commit access. And I do use that access to make things run faster and smoother, and am able to step in and just get something fixed up and committed while everyone else is asleep. But. For security critical code paths, I’ve come to realize that much like Debian, sometimes slow and secure IS better, even if it doesn’t feel like it in the moment (like when you’re trying to commit and deploy a critical security patch already being exploited in the wild, and NOBODY is around to do the review, or there’s something upstream that needs to be fixed before your job can go out).

  •  Baggins   ( @baggins@beehaw.org ) 
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    We’ll build our own Linux, with blackjack and hookers!

    •  ulkesh   ( @ulkesh@beehaw.org ) 
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      Dammit, I was a day late on making this joke. Filthy Bagginses.

    •  Lucy :3   ( @30p87@feddit.org ) 
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      * fascism and no human rights

      •  Dessalines   ( @dessalines@lemmy.ml ) 
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        The country that Linux is domiciled in currently (US), has slave labor camps:

        • The US currently operates a system of slave labor camps, including at least 54 prison farms involved in agricultural slave labor. Outside of agricultural slavery, Federal Prison Industries operates a multi-billion dollar industry with ~ 52 prison factories , where prisoners produce furniture, clothing, circuit boards, products for the military, computer aided design services, call center support for private companies. 1, 2, 3

        It also has the highest prisoner population in the world both by capita and total.

        Russia’s prison rates don’t even come close to the majority of US states, including even California.

        •  Lucy :3   ( @30p87@feddit.org ) 
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          Yeah, the USA is shit, in a lot of ways. And it’s steering towards being like russia. Still, russia is worse in terms of overall human rights.

          •  Dessalines   ( @dessalines@lemmy.ml ) 
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            Russia would need a hundred years more of existence to even come close to the amount of atrocities the US has and continues to commit.

  •  masterspace   ( @masterspace@lemmy.ca ) 
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    https://theonion.com/broke-dad-makes-son-playstation-2-for-christmas-1819565860/

    •  tetris11   ( @tetris11@lemmy.ml ) 
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      This joke hasn’t aged well. I took it as is and just assumed the Dad put together a micro PC with a PS2 emulator on it, and then I stared at the article for 5 minutes looking for the punchline.

      •  masterspace   ( @masterspace@lemmy.ca ) 
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        The joke still works fine, just replace PS2 with PS5 in your head.

        •  tetris11   ( @tetris11@lemmy.ml ) 
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          True

  •  تحريرها كلها ممكن   ( @PanArab@lemmy.ml ) 
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    More options is good for everyone

  •  gazter   ( @gazter@aussie.zone ) 
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    The possibilities for naming their distro are endless…

    •  ReakDuck   ( @ReakDuck@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Especially, because they can chose existing names as there is no Copyright in Russia (afaik, probably a wrong myth but idk)

    •  monk   ( @monk@lemmy.unboiled.info ) 
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      They already have a dozen, they all suck.

  •  Rin   ( @Rin@lemm.ee ) 
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    deleted by creator

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    Sounds like a pretty average day in the Linux community

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