Just a thought I had, like what can a ten year old do(besides mass murder & accidents) that messes up their life so badly that it is unrecoverable?
It has to be something that is self inflicted and not something that is the cause of others around them.
Tolookah ( @Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de ) 46•5 months agoIf, when you’re born, you don’t choose to be rich, that messes you up forever.
mke_geek ( @mke_geek@lemm.ee ) 8•5 months agoIf you’re not born rich you can become rich (or “comfortable”) later in life. It doesn’t mess you up forever.
jlow (he/him) ( @jlow@beehaw.org ) 17•5 months agoI think the changes of that happening are statistically neglible, though (comfortable maaaaybe if you’re really lucky but becoming rich is probably a one digit change, if that).
NauticalNoodle ( @NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml ) 11•5 months agoSocioeconomic mobility over a lifetime in the U.S. has always been dramatically overstated, but in the past 20 years its gradually gotten worse
“In the US only 32% of respondents agreed with the statement that forces beyond their personal control determine their success.”
"According to a 2012 Pew Economic Mobility Project study[24] 43% of children born into the bottom quintile (bottom 20%) remain in that bottom quintile as adults. Similarly, 40% of children raised in the top quintile (top 20%) will remain there as adults. Looking at larger moves, only 4% of those raised in the bottom quintile moved up to the top quintile as adults. Around twice as many (8%) of children born into the top quintile fell to the bottom.[24] 37% of children born into the top quintile will fall below the middle. These findings have led researchers to conclude that “opportunity structures create and determine future generations’ chances for success. Hence, our lot in life is at least partially determined by where we grow up, and this is partially determined by where our parents grew up, and so on.” -Per Wikipedia
2012 was 12 years ago, mind you.
Also found this 2021 Guardian Article that claims
“What about rising from rags to riches? In the US, 8% of children raised in the bottom 20% of the income distribution are able to climb to the top 20% as adults, while the figure in Denmark is nearly double at 15%. Equality of opportunity is also much less viable in the US than in other OECD countries…”
jlow (he/him) ( @jlow@beehaw.org ) 2•5 months agoThanks for that! So my hunch seemed to be oretty right, unfortunately (not sure if it should be everybody’s goal to become rich, that seems unsustainable but I wish it would be possible for more people to live a happy life …)
mke_geek ( @mke_geek@lemm.ee ) 1•5 months agoIt takes work, and if people don’t want to put in the work then they will never get there.
Didros ( @Didros@beehaw.org ) 2•5 months agoIt takes education, you can work your whole life at being a pro golfer, but if you never receive guidance, you will not reach your potential.
mke_geek ( @mke_geek@lemm.ee ) 1•5 months agoBeing a pro golfer isn’t the only way to make money.
Didros ( @Didros@beehaw.org ) 1•5 months agoWorking isn’t the only way to amass capital either. In fact, it is surely the slowest method.
CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 4•5 months agoOh gee, I hadn’t thought of that. I’ll go tell the African children. /s
Just eyeballing the life stories I know, and looking at the actual statistics on social mobility, if you do everything right you can expect to climb up like a single rung of the socioeconomic ladder. On average. There’s a great deal of luck involved there, even, and it’s possible to do everything right and go down the ladder if, for example, something unexpected cripples you.
monk ( @monk@lemmy.unboiled.info ) 1•5 months agoAnd you become a successful businesswoman carrying a chocolate bar with her at all times because of your childhood fear of starvation. Sure, that doesn’t sound messed up at all.
mke_geek ( @mke_geek@lemm.ee ) 1•5 months agoYour comment makes no sense.
BCsven ( @BCsven@lemmy.ca ) 24•5 months agoI was watching a Netflix documtary about killers, the guy said he was on drugs by age 9…so pretty sure that messed up his life before the murder. It is debatable on if surroundings or self choices are why you try drugs I guess.
monobot ( @monobot@lemmy.ml ) 1•5 months ago9 year olds don’t have “self choice” to use drugs.
Evem adults most often don’t have it. Addiction starts with trauma, often in mother’s womb. If mother is under stress while pregnant, huge and long stress, child has much bigger chances to become an addict.
Alice ( @Alice@beehaw.org ) 18•5 months agoI grew up in a hoarder house and I’m pretty sure I ruined my life by teaching myself to do the dishes as a kid. I was expected to keep the place clean for the rest of my childhood, and that turned into me being the only one to do chores of any kind. I was actually guilt tripped into skipping college so I’d be available to drive my sister to classes.
So yeah forget all the drugs and murder and shit. The real worst thing a child can do is wash a dish.
PolandIsAStateOfMind ( @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml ) 11•5 months agoThe most formatting event in everyone life nowadays, and the one most negatively impactful is being born poor, that is age zero.
bstix ( @bstix@feddit.dk ) 9•5 months agoHaving success in sports, entertainment or anything that pays out real money. There’s not a lot of happy stories about child stars.
greenregion667 ( @Pointtwogo@lemmy.ml ) 8•5 months agoBeing born homeless.
squid_slime ( @squid_slime@lemm.ee ) 7•5 months agoGrowing up in a house with sa at any age. For me I raw dogged life for my adult years blocking it out but stuff catches up and can be catastrophic.
secret300 ( @secret300@lemmy.sdf.org ) 4•5 months agoI feel that. I’m about to be 23 and now it’s on my mind again for some reason and idk what to do.
Prime ( @Prime@lemmy.sdf.org ) 2•5 months agoWhat is SA?
squid_slime ( @squid_slime@lemm.ee ) 1•5 months agotrigger warning
sexual abuse
RobotToaster ( @RobotToaster@mander.xyz ) 6•5 months agowhat can a ten year old do(besides mass murder & accidents) that messes up their life so badly that it is unrecoverable?
kill their own parents (it’s not technically mass murder until you’ve killed three people).
I'm_All_NEET:3 ( @SpaceFox@lemmy.ml ) English6•5 months agoDrugs at any age. Sure you can get clean but it takes a very pacific type of person to do that and there are more people who have failed then ones who have succeeded. I made the mistake of using drugs at a young age and it has destroyed my life beyond repair. If there are any young people reading this just remember it’s not worth it. Trust me nobody hates drugs more then drugheads.
Mike1576218 ( @Mike1576218@lemmy.ml ) 1•5 months agoAny age? Sure someone can drug and rape a 5 year old. But even with 8 it’s hard to get the cash for a proper addiction. You mind sharing about what age you fucked up to calibrate my compass?
In the end, this was about self inflicted damage. Not someone abusing you.
I'm_All_NEET:3 ( @SpaceFox@lemmy.ml ) English2•5 months agoWell, no one does date grape for fun. No one’s addicted to date grape and it doesn’t matter if you have the money as long as you have the taste for it. I started doing drugs at age 14. Things like weed, benadryl, LSD, glue and shooms. In the long run I shouldn’t have done it but I will admit I do have some nostalgia for doing them with my old friends.
UltraGiGaGigantic ( @UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ) English3•5 months agoBeing born into a life of wage slavery and renting.
Thanks mom and dad.
wuphysics87 ( @wuphysics87@lemmy.ml ) 1•5 months agoYoung enough to sleep with your teacher