They support Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, HuggingChat, and Mistral.
Unpopular opinion, I think they’re doing it right as well as it can be at least. It’s completely optional and doesn’t seem to be intrusive.
yeah its not google chrome level which i’m thankful about.
I’m way more pissed about restarting my PC after an update and having Copilot installed without my permission.
I agree
They better not decide to enable it by default.
it’s not enabled by default … it’s opt out by default
I think that means that it’s opt-in.
if third-party accounts are needed, it’ll have to stay that way.
I wish I had telemetry on such features.
I really doubt a significant number of people use AI chatbots often enough that having it in a dedicated sidebar is worth it.
I wish I had telemetry
I’m sure they do as Mozilla is an ad company
This is apparently either not widely known or some people just like to shoot the messenger.
- jwz, Jun.: Mozilla is an advertising company now
- jwz, Oct.: Mozilla’s CEO doubles down on them being an advertising company now
- Mozilla support: Share data with Mozilla to help improve Firefox
- Firefox documentation: Telemetry
While you are not wrong your dislike of Mozilla is has more to do with your instance being anti west. I’m not sure I’m ready to side with lemmyml
I happen to know jwz personally, and he knows Mozilla intimately: he founded it. His dislike of Mozilla is pretty much the same as mine, and he is neither “anti west” nor anti liberal. We dislike Mozilla because it has lost its way from being a FOSS browser maintainer and a booster for & steward of an open web.
And I’m not “anti-West,” I’m anti-capitalist, anti-settler-colonialist, and anti-imperialist; and those happen to be things that “the West” presently embodies.
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I’m pretty sure I know what the instance I admin does & doesn’t endorse, thanks.
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I think nobody uses AI Chatbots, unless you’re forced to do it. They’re utter shit.
I’ve never had the urge to use a chat bot personally, but I’m pretty sure I’m in the minority. Lots of people use these things all the time for so much stuff we probably wouldn’t even consider.
I’ve worked with a few people that all but rely on these things to produce any creative work they have to do.
Maybe we run in different circles but I think a lot of people don’t even talk about how they’re using it.
Thanks for nothing, Mozilla.
They should raise the ceo’s pay some more to celebrate.
And fire a few employees just cause.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ai-chatbot
Note that you need an account to use one of these supported systems. HuggingChat allows for a few connections as a gues before cutting the access; basically a trial version, so you have to create an account.
why a fucking chatbot? translate a page better for me you fucking losers, all the translation options suck for privacy outside of specifically trained local AIs. this is the BEST use case for a small local LLM yet mozilla with all its brains and resources couldnt rub two neurons together for this.
or they could do character prediction on your typing to make typing faster. just some legit examples, why waste resources to build a chat ai into my browser when i can just open a website???
Perhaps Mozilla’s biggest “failure” is just communication…
Firefox actually has this now.
bergamot is ok but leaves a lot to be desired
I mean, if you’re going to do it, where’s the Ollama love?
I don’t get it, ollama is a provider no?
I think the point is it’s open source
and so is firefox, so why use another model provider
A provider that can be run locally.
Are any of these open source or trustworthy?
There are no open source ai models, even if they tell you that they are. HuggingFace is the closest thing to as something like open source where you can download ai models to run locally without internet connection. There are applications for that. In Firefox the HuggingChat uses models from HuggingFace, but I think it is running them on a server and does not download from?
The reason why they are not open source is, because we don’t know exactly on what data they are trained on. We cannot rebuild them on our own. And for trustworthy, I assume you are talking about the integration and the software using the models, right? At least it is implemented by Mozilla, so there is (to me) some sort of trust involved. Yes, even after all the bullshit I trust Mozilla.
It’s “open weights” if they are publishing the model file but nothing about its creation. There’s some hypothetical security concerns with training it to give very specific outputs for certain very specific inputs but I feel like that’s one of those kind of far fetched worries especially if you want to use it for chat or summarization and the comparison is getting AI output from a server API. Local is still way better.
I think Mistral is model-available (ie I’m not sure if they release training data/code but they do release model shape and weights), huggingchat definitely is open source and model-available
Sorry but HuggingChat / HuggingFace and all models on it are not open source(Edit: Oh you meant the UI HuggingChat is Open Source. Yeah sorry, I was focused on the models. And there is no Open Source model from my understanding.) -> https://opensource.org/ai/open-source-ai-definition Off course opensource.org is not the only authority on what the word opensource means, but its not a bad start.
Wow, great job Firefox. Thanks.
If I wanted unreliable bullshit like AI, I’d use Chrome.
For a second I thought it said “experimental failure”. Would be more accurate, I think.
Now add support for GPT4All and everyone is happy again.
If they do it in a privacy-preseeving way, this could help them get back market share which will generally benefit an open internet.
Why would anybody want to have AI in their browser? It’s a fucking browser.
Because browsers are the most useful tool on most computers. Ordinary People go on google/ask chatgpt for mundane questions. If their browser can do that they need 1 app less and it will be more convenient which is what especially non-tech savy people care about.
But it’s gonna be very difficult when you’ve got Google and OpenAI up there.
It’s an open source project, you can keep it in a box and people are able to check it.
Sigh. I’m glad to have switched to LibreWolf.
I switched a while back before all the Ai and “privacy preserving” telemetry stuff.
Every update note I see for Firefox now just reinforces my decision.
I wonder if this can be removed at compile time, like Pocket.
