For example, you’re cleaning a room, your home or your apartment. And you find it defeating the purpose to dust things and wipe them down because, dust comes back anyways and eventually. It might not be as bad as it was or as bad as it could be, but you’ll always end up with dust and cleaning dust is just a grand waste of effort and time.

  •  lazylion_ca   ( @lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca ) 
    17•4 months ago

    This isnt an example of “defeating the purpose”. This is something that might be considered pointless, like making your bed when you’ll just sleep in it again later.

    Defeating the purpose would be writing the password to your computer on a sticky note and putting it where anyone can see it.

    •  TisI   ( @TisI@reddthat.com ) 
      2•4 months ago

      Why does everyone relate making the bed to dusting the place? Those are two completely different things. Making the bed serves nothing other than tidiness, whereas dusting is necessary to keep a clean house and keep allergies at bay.

  •  curiousaur   ( @curiousaur@reddthat.com ) 
    9•4 months ago

    If your dust analogy stands, why do you clean your ass? The poop is just going to come back.

    I’m obviously not suggesting you stop cleaning your ass, but rather reassess how you see necessary regular menial tasks.

    Nobody likes them, but they are what they are. Regular and necessary. You can even start to like them by meditating on task itself, and by expressing gratitude towards the conclusion, which in this example is a nicer cleaner space to live.

  •  ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed   ( @IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English
    5•4 months ago

    “TSA-Approved” Locks

    🤣

    It give TSA a special key to unlock these locks.

    Oh this key is soooo special that its available on amazon to buy as a special present to your fellow theives.

    They are worse than no lock.

    At least with no lock, someone breaking into your luggage and planting drugs, you have plausable deniability.

    With a TSA-Approved lock, someone could use the TSA Key to open the lock and plant the drugs, then relock and frame you for the drugs. And since its locked, its not gonna be easy to convince the TSA and courts that someone else had acccess and framed you.

    Just a get a real non-tsa lock lol.

  •  Stepos Venzny   ( @SteposVenzny@beehaw.org ) English
    4•4 months ago

    There’s always going to be more dust but more than zero isn’t as big a problem as more than a layer.

    For me, the answer is vacations. Not in the sense of “time off work” but in the sense of “travel somewhere special during your time off work”. There is nothing less relaxing than being pressured to spend your free time correctly.

  •  Iunnrais   ( @Iunnrais@lemm.ee ) 
    3•4 months ago

    Dusting and cleaning does not defeat the purpose. You’re making the mistake of thinking that cleanliness is boolean… true or false. It’s not that it’ll just get dusty again, it’s that it will get more dusty, and then even more dusty, and then dustier still, and there is actually no real practical limit to how filthy a place can get. Cleaning resets the progress to a point where you can live again.

    Now, there is a related cleaning story that could be called defeating the purpose that stuck in my mind. It’s a bit Luddite in nature, but does have a point. It’s a micro-story from inside the book “Mrs Frisby and the Rats of Nimh”:

    The story was about a woman in a small town who bought a vacuum cleaner. Her name was Mrs. Jones, and up until then she, like all of her neighbors, had kept her house spotlessly clean by using a broom and a mop.

    But the vacuum cleaner did it faster and better, and soon Mrs. Jones was the envy of all the other housewives in town—so they bought vacuum cleaners, too.

    The vacuum cleaner business was so brisk, in fact, that the company that made them opened a branch factory in the town. The factory used a lot of electricity, of course, and so did the women with their vacuum cleaners, so the local electric power company had to put up a big new plant to keep them all running.

    In its furnaces the power plant burned coal, and out of its chimneys black smoke poured day and night, blanketing the town with soot and making all the floors dirtier than ever.

    Still, by working twice as hard and twice as long, the women of the town were able to keep their floors almost as clean as they had been before Mrs. Jones every bought a vacuum cleaner in the first place.

    That’s an example of defeating the purpose, where the thing you do actually makes it worse. A similar “defeating the purpose” is when a bunch of companies lowers wages to save money, making it so that people can no longer afford their products, meaning that they earn less money after all.

  •  DjMeas   ( @DjMeas@lemm.ee ) 
    2•4 months ago

    I used to not want to make my bed because I was going to sleep in it again and get it messy anyway.

    My dad started telling me to not wipe my ass because I’m going to shit again anyway.

      •  ctkatz   ( @ctkatz@lemmy.ml ) 
        1•4 months ago

        voting is absolutely worth the squeeze when you do it. however voting also is heavily dependent on a voting base that is both highly engaged in the process and is knowledgeable about the issues.

        so when you have elections where:

        1. a third or more of all eligible voters do not vote
        2. laws have been passed to make it harder to vote for some people
        3. a majority of the people who do vote have only paid attention to campaign issues for at the most the two weeks directly before the end of voting and
        4. voters are not given the facts about each candidate by a press that is more interested in manufacturing a close race for pure financial gain rather than accuracy in telling the truth about the candidates

        voting completely defeats the purpose. because the end result is not one based on actual facts, it’s an outcome manufactured by vested interests with near infinite resources given the petina of legitimacy by playing on the fact that people were freely given a choice. more times than not there’s enough people who are paying attention to overcome that deficit in the ability to message. but the times when it does not it goes really wrong.