• absurdism is very much not "nothing matters"ism.

    Absurdism is pushing the boundaries as much as possible within the framework of a traditionally recognized media, art, performance art, movies, shows, whatever.

    A great example of this is many of the pieces done by Marina Abramović particularly the rhythm series (btw performance art has some of the most bizarre pieces out there, highly recommend looking into it sometime), or any of her proposed pieces. The whole point of absurdism is a situation that is not physically conceivable. Or outside the bounds of normality to such an extent that it enters a new plane of reality. You could argue that it may even be a hyper-reality.

    The point is to demonstrate the arbitrary nature of our lives, everything around us, and how we define it. It’s not that nothing matters, it’s that everything surrounding us has no inherent meaning outside of our commonly accepted frame of reference.

    TL;DR absurdism isn’t just nihilism, it’s meta nihilism. Everything matters, but the problem is nobody knows why anything matters, it’s entirely manufactured. There is no set or explained reason for any one thing being any particular way.

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      2 years ago

      Wrong absurdism. Though it is related, absurdist fiction also deals with the lack of inherent meaning per absurdism. You use a level of confidence to say absurdism isnt about a lack of inherent meaning that i believe is entirely unwarranted.

      Absurdism is the philosophical theory that the universe is irrational and meaningless.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism

      Notably from Camus.

      Camus, however, denies that there is an answer to this question, and rejects every scientific, teleological, metaphysical, or human-created end that would provide an adequate answer. Thus, while accepting that human beings inevitably seek to understand life’s purpose, Camus takes the skeptical position that the natural world, the universe, and the human enterprise remains silent about any such purpose. Since existence itself has no meaning, we must learn to bear an irresolvable emptiness.

      https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/camus/#ParCamAbs

      • Absurdism is the philosophical theory that the universe is irrational and meaningless.

        in it’s most extreme form yes, similar to how nihilism works in it’s most extreme form, however the difference here is that we aren’t talking about an explicitly sterile environment, unfortunately we live in the real world, and as evidenced by this post. My description probably conveys more accuracy and meaning, than the philosophical definition of it, in this case at least.

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          it just depends on each person’s views, yours defines meaning in a way that makes the meme’s phrasing wrong but plenty of interpretations/definitions make it accurate. The lack of intrinsic meaning is pretty fundamental to the philosophy though. the meme is pretty clearly riffing on the fact that absurdism isnt just “nothing matters”, it’s visual wordplay.