Of course, I’m not in favor of this “AI slop” that we’re having in this century (although I admit that it has some good legitimate uses but greed always speaks louder) but I wonder if it will suffer some kind of piracy, if it is already suffering or people simple are not interested in “pirated AI”
I mean they stole people’s actual work already, so they’re the bad kind of pirates.
Just like people steal movies from the high seas? I hope this is sarcasm.
Nope, there’s a difference there in that they aren’t taking something from ordinary people who need the money in order to survive. Actors, producers, directors etc have already been paid and besides, hollywood etc aren’t exactly using that money to give back to society in any meaningful way most of the time.
They did not take money from anyone. Are ‘t we on the priacy community? What is with the double standards? It’s theft if it’s against the Little Guy™ but it’s civil copyright violation if it’s against the Corpos?
I’m against corporations. Not actual people. I don’t see how that’s double standards at all.
Best comment I read in a long time ❤️
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It’s so much worse
Explain how.
Because training an AI is similar to training a person. You give it a bunch of examples to learn the rules from, then it applies what it learned to the prompt it is asked. The training data is not included in the end result.
How is what they’re doing different from, say, an IPTV provider?
So a while ago I was on a platform where the community valued art that was made by actual artists. AI Art was strictly forbidden and anyone who showcased said AI art in their gallery or used it as a profile picture, had it removed and could face penalty.
AI has been trained to generate art styles from many artists by crawling through the web. Anyone can go to any AI generating source, punch in a few descriptive keywords, tell AI to mimic a style as closely as possible and now you have a copy of said material.
The difference is, is that IPTV is just an internet-based streaming station similar to how networks operate to broadcast television shows. There’s nothing to really pirate.
I’m talking about the data sets LLMs use, just so we’re on the same page.
I’m pretty sure those things are trained on content which was obtained without paying royalties to the creators, hence by definition pirated content - so that would count as “piracy around them”.
On the opposite side, as far as I know the things created with Generative AI so far can’t be copyrighted, hence by definition can’t be pirated as they’ve always belonged to the Public Domain.
As for the engines themselves, there are good fully open source options out there which can be locally installed (if you have enough memory in your graphics card) and there seem to be thriving communities around it (at least it looks like it from what bit I dipped into that stuff so far). I’m not sure if it’s at all possible to pirate the closed source engines since I expect those things are designed to be deployed to very specific server farm architectures.
There are quite a few options for running your own LLM. Ollama makes it fairly easy to run (with a big selection of models - there’s also Hugging Face with even more models to suit various use cases) and OpenWebUI makes it easy to operate.
Some self-hosting experience doesn’t hurt, but it’s pretty straightforward to configure if you follow along with Networkchuck in this video.
There already is. You can download copies of AI that are similar or better than ChatGPT from hugging face. I run different models locally to create my own useless AI slop without paying for anything.
Are you referring to ollama?
No because that is just an API that can run LLMs locally. GPT4All is an all in one solution that can run the .gguf file. Same with kobold ai.
Cool I’ll check that out
Which model would you say is better than GPT-4? All I tried are cool but are not quite on GPT-4 level.
The very newly released Deepseek R1 “reasoning model” from China beats OpenAI’s o1 model on multiple areas, it seems – and you can even see all the steps of the pre-answering “thinking” that’s hidden from the user in o1. It’s a huge model, but it (and the paper about it) will probably positively impact future “open source” models in general, now the “thinking” cat’s outta the bag. Though, it can’t think about Tiananmen Square or Taiwan’s autonomy – but many derivative models will probably be modified to effectively remove such Chinese censorship.
Just gave Deepseek R1 (32b) a try. Except for the censorship probably the closest to GPT-4 so far. The chain-of-thought output is pretty interesting, sometimes even more useful than the actual response.
I’ve had good success with mistral
Not pirated. But my country, Spain, released an open AI model completely for free. Everything is open. The training data the models and everything. It’s supposedly ethically trained with open data(I have not personally dig in the training data but it’s there published).
It’s focused on spanish and regional languages of spain. But I think it can also do things in English.
Not piracy per se, as it’s completely legal. But there’s something you don’t depend on any bussiness to run.
First i hear about it, any links?
Of course.
Thanks! Need to see if they have documented their datasets AND are actually public
Incredibly weird that this thread was up for two days without anyone posting a link to the actual answer to OP’s question, which is g4f.
Meta’s model was pirated in a sense, someone leaked it early last year I think, but Llama isn’t that impressive, and after using it on whatsapp seems like nothing got better.
There are groups that give access to pirated AI. When I was a student, i used them to make projects. As for how they get access to it? They usually jailbreak websites that provide free trials and automate the account creation process. The higher quality ones scam big companies for startup credits. Then there are also some leaked keys.
Anyways thats what i would call “pirated AI”. (Not the locally run AI)
Not sure it it counts in any way as piracy per say, but there is at least jail broken bing’s copilot AI (Sydney version) using SydneyQT from Juzeon on github.
Well… sufficient local processing power would enable personalized “creators” which are pre-trained to provide certain content (e.g. A game). Those thingies will definitely be pirates, hacked and modded.
As they currently already are…
I’m not sure what you’re asking, but it seems you’re not aware of the huge AI model field where various AI models are already being publicly shared and adjusted? It doesn’t need piracy to see or have alternatives.
The key to hosted services like ChatGPT is that they offer an API, a service, they never distribute the AI software/model.
Other kinds of AI gets distributed and will be pirated like any software.
Considering piracy “around” them, there’s an intransparent issue of models being trained on pirated content. But I assume that’s not what you were asking.
@incognito08 AI could be a direction in piracy too imo
