David Sacks said there's evidence that DeepSeek 'distilled' knowledge from OpenAI's models, a process that Sacks equated to theft.

LOL

  • Lugh ( Lugh@futurology.today ) English
    93·
    2 years ago

    So the same people who have no problem about using other people’s copyrighted work, are now crying when the Chinese do the same to them? Find me a nano-scale violin so I can play a really sad song.

  • Acoustic ( Acoustic@lemm.ee ) English
    26·
    2 years ago

    Bruh, these guys trained their own AI on so called “puplicly available” content. Except it was, and still is, completely without consent from, or compensation to said artists/bloggers/creators etc… Don’t throw rocks when you live in a glass house 🤌

    • Zerush ( Zerush@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      2 years ago

      Another reason why I use Andi, because it don¡t gut copyright content to the own knowledge base, it’s is a search assistant, not a chatbot like others, it search by the concept and give a direct answer to your question, listing also the links of the sources and pages where it found the answers. It’s LLM is only made to “understand” (to call it something) your question to search pages que contain information about it and to understand the content to be capable to summarize it. There isn’t third party or copyright content in the LLM. It’s knowledge is real time web content like any other search engine. Even in it’s (reduced) chat capabilities, always show the sources where it found it’s answers.

      Traditional search works with keywords, listing thousends of pages where appears this keyword, that means that 99% of the list has nothing to do with what you are looking for, this is the reason why AI searches give a better result, but not Chatbots, which search the answers in a own knowledge base and invent answers if not.

    • dawnglider ( dawnglider@lemmy.ml ) English
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      2 years ago

      It’s funny that they did all that and open-sourced it too. Like some kid accusing another to copy their homeworks while the other kid did significantly better and also offered to share.

  • mctoasterson ( mctoasterson@reddthat.com ) 
    16·
    2 years ago

    Here’s the thing… It was a bubble because you can’t wall off the entire concept of AI. This revelation was just an acceleration displaying what should’ve been obvious.

    There are many many open models available for people to fuck around with. I have in a homelab setting, just to keep abreast of what is going on, get a general idea how it works and what its capable of.

    What most normie followers of AI don’t seem to understand is, whether you’re doing LLM or machine learning object detection or something, you can get open software that is “good enough” and run it locally. If you have a raspberry pi you can run some of this stuff, and it will be slow, but acceptable for many use cases.

    So the concept that only OpenAI would ever hold the keys and should therefore have massive valuation in perpetuity, that is just laughable. This Chinese company just highlighted that you can bruteforce train more optimized models on garbage-tier hardware.

    • Zerush ( Zerush@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      2 years ago

      Yes, AI arrived to stay, that is fact, also soon there will be a unified global AI (see Stargat Project) which will make obsolet all other LLM. A $500 Billon project. The only thing we can do is to use it in the most intelligent way, avoiding it will be impossible.

  • thefluffiest ( thefluffiest@feddit.nl ) 
    14·
    2 years ago

    FUD, just to distract from the crushing multibillion dollar defeat they’ve just been dealt. First stage of grief: denial. Second: anger. Third: bargaining. We’re somewhere between 2 and 3 right now.

  • Etterra ( Etterra@discuss.online ) English
    13·
    2 years ago

    Yeah, and? WTF are you chuckle fucks gonna do about it? Whine and complain without a hint of irony? Because that’s all this is. Because there’s not a goddamn thing you can do about it, and you hate that. Not to mention the hit to your nearly bottomless wallets. Cry more emo kid, your suffering sustains me.

    • Zerush ( Zerush@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      2 years ago

      That is what I mean, it’s a difference between an AI with robbed content in its knowledge/lenguage base and an AI assistant which only search iformation in the web to answer, linking to the corresponding pages. Way more intelligent and ethic use of an AI.