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coyotino [he/him] ( theangriestbird@beehaw.org )  to TechnologyEnglish · 2 years ago

OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data OpenAI Stole From Us [404 Media]

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OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data OpenAI Stole From Us [404 Media]

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coyotino [he/him] ( theangriestbird@beehaw.org )  to TechnologyEnglish · 2 years ago
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OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data OpenAI Stole From Us
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OpenAI shocked that an AI company would train on someone else's data without permission or compensation.
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  • DdCno1 ( DdCno1@beehaw.org ) 
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    I can’t be the only one who wants to see both of them losing this fight.

    • coyotino [he/him] ( theangriestbird@beehaw.org ) OP
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      right there with you. but seeing them scrambling after being so smug about their overpriced product has been nice.

    • Sauerkraut ( Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      DeepSeek is completely free and open source, why do you want it to fail?

      • DdCno1 ( DdCno1@beehaw.org ) 
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        Because it’s designed by a genocidal imperialist regime and intended to increase its global influence. It’s a heavily censored model that spreads Chinese government propaganda and distorts the truth.

    • verdare [he/him] ( verdare@beehaw.org ) 
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      I find myself in an interesting situation because I want to abolish copyright and institute UBI. I don’t really think you can “steal” images on the internet, but seeing OpenAI whine about intellectual property now does bring some schadenfreude.

      • Megaman_EXE ( Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org ) 
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        The only thing I don’t like it stolen artwork/voices/identities being used.

        I also don’t like how I have to now hyper analyze everything I see and hear as an additional step to confirm if I’m seeing something legitimate or if it’s someone trying to mislead people.

        I think my favorite parts of these tools are translation and simple word editing. Being able to prompt it to assist with various logic problems can also be nice.

        So I feel conflicted. I guess like with any tool, it can be used properly or improperly

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    I will explain what this means in a moment, but first: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha.

  • Che Banana ( The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org ) 
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    Oh man that’s …funny

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    404media usually does great work. The lack of editing here – missing crucial words, subject-verb agreement problems – makes this something I ducked out of halfway through.

  • The Doctor ( drwho@beehaw.org ) 
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    Waah.

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    I thought training a model from AI data reduced its effectiveness? Wouldn’t this mean they still did something crazy since they got the opposite results?

    • Drew ( crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      I don’t think it’s training from AI data, but rather distillation: which tries to mimic another model

      So there’s a difference in what’s happening, one is taking the data as input and trying to form something new, while the other is trying to recreate the input

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        Ah I saw it mentioned but paywall blocked the rest lol

        Distillation is basically reverse engineering for AI cool.

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