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ooli2 ( ooli2@lemm.ee )  to DeGoogle Yourself@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago

google is not and never was your friend, it is a dictator tool: Degoogle

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google is not and never was your friend, it is a dictator tool: Degoogle

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ooli2 ( ooli2@lemm.ee )  to DeGoogle Yourself@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • hulfpa ( hulfpa@lemmy.ml ) 
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    This move makes zero sense to me. Why, change it? It’s not it’s official name or international recognized name so wtf

    • ooli2 ( ooli2@lemm.ee ) OP
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      pleasing the power, so they remove any law that protect our privacy against google prying eye

    • ShareMySims ( ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Then you must not be paying much attention, or have an understanding of how capitalism functions (nor of how and why it inevitably decays in to fascism).

    • samus12345 ( samus12345@lemm.ee ) 
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      Why change it?

      White supremacy.

    • objject_not_found ( objject_not_found@lemm.ee ) 
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      I also find the word “America” too latino. wouldn’t it be better to change it with an English word?

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    Organic Maps:

    15991

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      Organic maps updates its dataset once a month or so. It will eventually be updated to the gulf of America, as it is now, technically named the gullf of America in America. See discussion here: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571

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        Seems like that it is going to be not renamed but they’re adding a “official” tagged name, which is the Gulf of America.

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    Even in the UK they have put Gulf of America.

    The UK Government doesn’t recognize that name and have officially stated they wont (at least in the short term)

    • gen/Eric Computers ( generic_computers@lemmy.zip ) 
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      I live in the US and I won’t recognize the name either.

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        • irreticent ( irreticent@lemmy.zip ) 
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          Trump signed an executive order renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. Executive orders aren’t laws, they’re just memos stating what the federal government will do. Google decided to bend the knee for the new king.

          • Google Maps officially implements Gulf of America name change, but only in the US

          For U.S. Google Map users only, the body of water formerly known as the Gulf of Mexico will now appear as the Gulf of America when using the navigational service.

          The change comes just several weeks after President Donald Trump signed an executive order for the gulf to be renamed and on Sunday declared February 9 was officially Gulf of America Day.

          Following the order, Google stated that it has a longstanding practice of implementing name changes when done by official government sources.

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    • Petter1 ( Petter1@lemm.ee ) 
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      UK should sue them…

    • ShareMySims ( ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Lmfao, as if Keith would dare stand up to a mega corporation, or a fascist for that matter… I give it a week, at absolute most.

  • jokeyrhyme ( jokeyrhyme@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Planet America, orbiting the American sun, in the galaxy called America

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      The Galaxy of (truth, Justice, and) the American Way!

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    No better time than the present to switch to OpenStreetMap

    For Android, I use OsmAnd~ which uses OpenStreetMap data and allows you to download maps to calculate routes offline, something Google Maps couldn’t do for routes by foot and by bike last time I tried.

    It also has better coverage for some small paths in natural areas like forests. Give it a try!

    • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol ( IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      • OfficerBribe ( OfficerBribe@lemm.ee ) 
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        Google Maps are pretty barebones, but at the same time reliable for general / basic use. Depends on region, but OSM usually will be more detailed. It is also possible your region has some local provider that is even better.

        Google Maps in my region excel only for navigation quality for cars and search for commercial stuff (businesses and shops)

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      In OSM ″Gulf of America″ is added under official_name:en-US tag so if any app uses this tag to display names, it will show up.

      Here is the link to OSM object for Gulf of Mexico. And here is a thread that discusses naming.

      Any country/language can call any object as they want. This change of course was dumb and petty and doubt it will be adopted by other regions, but this is nothing new or special. Google Maps currently show ″Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)″ for me. When checking in another language it shows same naming standard.

      • ChaoticNeutralCzech ( ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ) 
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        Google Maps currently show ″Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)″ for me.

        Same as me (Czech Republic, preferred language English). “Mexický záliv (Americký záliv)” in Czech.

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        Yeah OSMand and organic maps update their data sets once a month or so. I know this as when I first started contributing I checked the app 100x bummed that my contributions weren’t there yet lol

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      You’re all welcome in !openstreetmap@lemmy.ml to discuss antying OSM-related.

      The namechange of the Gulf has been discussed on our forum; how to deal with this has been decided in consensus.

      And, obligated self-promo: if you want to start contributing to OSM, you can try https://mapcomplete.org/ (which is someting else then the StreetComplete app, but that one is nice too!)

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    Using the website from outside of the US shows it with its proper name, but then the asshat version in parentheses.

    • Norah (pup/it/she) ( princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      Yeah, same here in Australia.

    • bungalowtill ( bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      I have no use for a map service that isn’t sure about the names of places.

  • Chemical Wonka ( chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    Degoogled since 2018

    hardcore mode, google domains blocked by DNS

    YouTube scrap data

    GrapheneOS with used Pixel

    • Hux ( Hux@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Preferred search engine?

      • SeekPie ( SeekPie@lemm.ee ) 
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        I’ve been using startpage floor about a year now, has worked great.

        • the_weez ( jodanlime@midwest.social ) 
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          Isn’t that just Google with an extra MITM for everything? Sure it protects your privacy a little bit but the same bad actors are still getting their ad revenue from your searches, correct? Or do I just not understand how start page works?

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            Not sure how ad revenue works. Do they get paid, if no ads are shown? Or is it because of SEO and the search results that come up first that give ad revenue?

  • Dingaling ( digdilem@lemmy.ml ) 
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    It’s not google’s fault. It was told to do so and has. Does anyone seriously expect them not to have done this?

    Every American company, or company doing business in America, needs to toe the line of an unpredictable and vindictive president, especially one as fat and tempting as Google.

    Now there’ll be a disconnect in mapping between what some sources say and what others do, but anyone with a little history knowledge knows this isn’t the first time.

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      • eatyourglory ( eatyourglory@feddit.it ) 
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        Look at the Falkland Islands. It does the exact same thing because the Argentinian government ordered them to. Google maps tries to stay apolitical, by abiding governments, and adding the non-globally recognised name in brackets.

      • Dingaling ( digdilem@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Nor am I, but what’s that got to do with it?

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          • smeenz ( smeenz@lemmy.nz ) 
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            There are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of place names that are not internationally recognised around the world.

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      The renaming only applies to US federal agencies. Google is (supposedly) not a federal agency, so yes, it is their fault.

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        Google takes their place name data from the relevant country’s official government sources. That source data changed. This is exactly like when the previous administration renamed Mt McKinley to Denali.

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          They don’t have to do that, especially when the change is clearly for white supremacy purposes (like Denali being given its colonial name back). It’s their choice to be bootlickers.

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        The renaming only applies to US federal agencies.

        Reference, please?

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    Time for a repeat comment: Organic Maps does everything Google Maps does (except traffic conditions), and is FOSS. Please encourage places to contribute business information to Open Street Maps.

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      Talking about FOSS; I prefer OsmAnd because its licence is GPLv3, as opposed to the Apache 2 licence from Organic Maps.

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        Yup, big OsmAnd fan, too. We use it for backpacking and biking, but have found OM to be more driver friendly, which is why I recommended it here.

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      Also doesn’t do public transport routes

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    America is so fucking weird!

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      Only most of us. Please send help.

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        Putin is on the way 😝

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            Ufff, I guess I should have added a “/s” 🤣

            Now I look like a tankie

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    In Taiwan it says:

    Gulf of Mexico(Gulf of America)

    • AndyMFK ( AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Same for me in Australia

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      Same for me in the US!

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    This is pathetic and reeks of insecurity big time. Hope that this debacle improves your QoL, Americans.

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      American here. It’s freaking embarrassing. Not as much as all the other shit, and certainly not as sad and tragic. Our neighbors elected a cartoon villain and his best buddy, another cartoon villain.

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      Seems like all the high-visibility, internet-focused corporations are rushing forward to bend the knee.

      I guess it would be pretty interesting to see one of them do the opposite. As in, how easily and quickly would the exec and other branches be able to attack them, maybe even to destroy them?

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      Eh I’m on the opposite side, despite being a massive lefty. Why would an american company not follow an American dictate just for America? (It’s still called the Gulf of Mexico on Google in every other country) It sets a wild precedent where private businesses refuse to follow the fairly inconsequential requests of their government.

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        “I’m such a massive lefty, I see no issue with a mega corporation bending the knee to a fascist regime and helping them virtually take over territory that isn’t theirs” 🙄

        (also no, it isn’t only showing in the states, and this being an expected part of capitalism doesn’t make it any less of a problem to be taken seriously)

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          What does google have to gain from saying no? A mild recapture of respect from the people with no political power?

          Also the territory isn’t there’s, sure, but it’s also no one’s. If weird ass trump wants to rename it in their countries name, go for it.

          Google shows Gulf of Mexico to Mexico, and both names to every other country.

          As Bannon literally pointed out, this is absolutely a Trump tactic, to firehouse the news with bullshit stories, and THIS is comparatively a non issue.

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      What’s funny is the rest of the world gets “Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)” which ups the insecurity I expect.

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      reeks of insecurity big time.

      No, it’s literally the opposite, it’s a display of power and support for an openly fascist regime they KNOW will benefit them financially.

      It’s the epitome of capitalism, and precisely why said capitalism will always decay in to fascism.

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    1000062835

    Meanwhile in the UK

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    Fuck Google and Samsung and everyone else who is preinstalled on my phone from the factory. I switched my phone OS to an AOSP GSI without the Google mobile services. Will probably be switching to WordPress from Blogger.

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      You should probably do some research on WordPress before migrating. Personally I wouldn’t touch WordPress with somebody else’s 10ft pole right now, the drama is an extreme turnoff. I’ve tried every AI chat bot except Automattics because I’m not interested in their games. Plenty of other great blogging platforms to choose from.

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        I mentioned it because it is the closest thing to Blogger.

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          That’s probably true and totally fair. I’ve heard good things about Ghost lately. Personally I’m looking into SSG’s for a new blog, a bit of setup but after that I really like the workflow. I’m trying out Zola right now. Good luck!

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      How about Concrete5 instead?

      https://github.com/concretecms/concretecms

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        Though there’s an option to write Pandoc-based static site blog.

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    IIRC Google shows different names and borders depending on the location you’re accessing it from. They just follow whatever the local government thinks is right.

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      There’s no thought in our government, so they’re already messing that one up. Also, it’s just the president who cares (and I guess some people who voted for him).

      I’d imagine a majority of people here aren’t calling it the new name (or even know the name changed).

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        I’ve always heard locals just call it “the Gulf.”

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