Just wondering as an American watching the EU pool resources and mostly work for the same common goals over my lifetime.
To clarify, I’m not saying that this would be a part of the United States of America, but a separate world power.
I hope within a hundred years, the entire globe can unite and we can all just be Earthicans.
Edit: What hateful POS is against worldwide unification?
OPA will not stand for continued interference from the inners!
Beltalowda!
Hey, I am.
We are now nemesis… Nemeses… Nemesiss?
I’ve always been partial to Earthers (or Terrans).
Tellurian is less obvious, but I much prefer the sound of it
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What hateful POS is against worldwide unification?
Vibrant ecologies have diversity. Fully unified government isnt diverse, and would be bad for at least some people. I hope all of our governments suck less, but still have each-other to compete with.
I’ll be dead in the ground before I have to share a countrya Lithuanian
As a Canadian, could it be rebranded to Western Democratic Union (or something), so we can join? Also it might help UK undo its mistake if it didn’t have to admit its mistake.
Why should we meet you half way? Just move Canada to Europe instead.
You’re technically still ruled by the british monarch, no?
Problem solved!
Probably not - it’s the continent that invented the term “balkanisation” after all. Also, at the moment the UK is on the outs and tinpot Orban is on the ins, so god knows where that is going.
There are at least a half a dozen countries in the EU with 1000 years of history behind them. I wonder how that weight of history blends with what the modern world requires.
It’s not like these countries are stuck in the past. They evolved like the rest of the world.
The city I live in was once the capital city of a duchy. It even had a palace that unfortunately burned down completely. There are talks to rebuild it. But it costs so much and nobody knows what to do with all the space it would provide.
If anything the current trends seem to be more nationalist (and fascist), so I highly doubt it.
Im not european but a guy had an interesting take with it being more unified but like the swiss system where the cantons (ie in this case countries) hold a lot of power.
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I truly hope so. And the best time to initiate this project is right now, when all of Europe is facing same issues that unite us
I agree with you. But we have a problem that the US didn’t have: we all speak vastly different languages.
The US did have that problem, too. There were settlers from all european countries who spoke all different languages, plus natives (albeit that the natives were genocided over time, so their languages were sorted out the other way), and at one point during the constitution process they had a vote on which language should become official. And it almost was german, btw.
nd at one point during the constitution process they had a vote on which language should become official. And it almost was german, btw.
That’s a modern myth. IIRC there was a newspaper that had to decide to publish either in German or English and they decided in favor of English. The USA doesn’t have an official language but de facto it is English.
I looked it up and we’re both right and wrong. There was a vote, but it was about printing laws in german, additionally to english prints. And there is no federal official language, but some states codicized english as their official language, sometimes alongside other languages.
However, my point still stands as in the beginning, there were many different languages and they somehow managed to find a common one.
Please don’t, it’s good to have differences between people and different places to go
Well I hope so.
History comes in cycles. We’re entering an era of strong nationalism so I can’t believe that would happen any time soon. But once the world runs out of oil, the climate is decimated, and population comes crashing down because of restrictive immigration laws, there will be a sharp curve to the left and pro-EU that could lead to more interest in federation.
Or not, and the EU will continue to crumble during the water wars.
soon. But once the world runs out of oil, the climate is decimated, and population comes crashing down because of restrictive immigration laws, there will be a sharp curve to the left and pro-EU that could lead to more interest in federation.
Or
This. Also, throw in the mix a backlash against nationalists abusing the cultural power void that might appear if both the US and the UK are collapsing - including the media industries -, the soft power of English declines, and instead of mass adoption of Mandarin in the stead of English we might try again Esperanto (which might not be the perfect universal language, but it could be perfect for Europeans).
I can see the ‘Core EU’ uniting into a single state like a United States of Europe or a European Federation but not the whole of the EU or Europe.
The ‘Core EU’ are the member states that push for further integration like France, BeNeLux and Germany. But there are member states that don’t want to give Brussels more power like Hungary.This can cripple the EU. A merger state would dominate all votes with their larger population and number of representatives. There could be no decision without the approval of them. For example a qualified vote requires states with at least 65% of the EU population. FR+GER+BE+NE+LUX together represent ~41% of the total EU population and can therefore block every vote. They could create some kind of duopoly of the merger state and EU remnants to balance power somehow.
The EU always was neither fish nor fowl, why not make it weirder? 🤪
