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Streisand effect: I had never heard of the “network state” until now. Uh, thanks for being such an asshole, Zuck!
I just found out like a week ago. Look up techno feudalism. Apparently these guys have been talking about it for a long time.
Reddit is shadow banning people like crazy as well. This is scary
what’s the difference between government censorship, and corporate censorship by organs closely tied to the government, and corporate censorship by organs closely tied to the government where certain phrases are randomly declared punishable by death?
What does shadow banning typically look like? I would assume you don’t get a notification? How do you find out?
Logout and browse your user profile page via old.Reddit it’ll say banned or suspended.
Ah. That’s even easier. Good to know how to quickly check.
you do a thing, but there are no interactions. maybe in only certain contexts. so to you it appears as if you’re engaging, but your posts and sometimes reactions/votes don’t show up except to you.
haha. seeing as I don’t usually get much interaction I would never notice.
switched to lemmy as main platform on my phone a few days ago anyway. when boost for reddit finally was blocked completely. will try to be more active here and hope many other people do the same… there is a good chance with all that’s going on.
yeah I probably wouldn’t notice if everyone else in town was replaced by robots tomorrow until I went and tried to feed randos and found they didn’t eat anymore.
How do you find out?
I assume looking at reddit through an incognito window and seeing none of your posts appearing
Hmm. Will try it some time. Sometimes it feels like being shadow-banned… but TBH it’s more likely just not so active communities / mediocre contribution on my part.
Shut down and delete your data on your US tech accounts. Their business’s are worthless without our accounts.
It’s a process, start today! With the easy ones and work towards the hard ones.
Agreed.
Everyone needs to GTFO facebook. We can hardly do it because every other HOA and School PTA is there, but we get stop using messenger and stop having personal discussions over there.
I was fortunate that my partner never used Facebook, so I got to hold “communication with their sibling/child” over their heads and get the family chat onto signal. That was my last thing I had to do before I could delete my account
The most fun was sending a message to each of the Facebook friends: hi (name) I’m deleting my Facebook account, if you want to contact me online I can be reached on signal at (signal ID)
My wife and I were on Facebook Messenger a lot. Then she started pointing out every time we would talk about any topic she would get ads for it. I talked her into using signal.
We added the teenager into it, now the only serious problem I have is the little one could stand to be on the family chat in signal but he doesn’t have a phone number.
I tried making an account for him with my Google voice number, for some reason it refused on his Wi-Fi only tablet. So I made him an account using my real phone number, then remade my account using my Google voice number on my phone which worked, But now his signal account flips back and forth between his name and my name and it’s just very confused. It’s good enough but I wish there was some way you could do signal without having to do a phone number. Especially a sub account for kids you know…
I thought I heard recently about signal allowing a different ID system, but I think that’s about not having to share your phone number, as against them IDing you with a phone number which I expect they will keep doing
Don’t accept it when organizations require you to sign up and hand over personal information to private and commercial third parties. Requiring Facebook is an active attempt at curbing participation.
Oh they can’t force you. You can always rely on the pta just to send you papers home and backpacks and you don’t really need to talk to your neighbors or have them report problems in a public forum
There’s enough value for these places that I still go back to Facebook for it, they’re not forcing me. They just make it worth it.
Yeah that’s them network effects
Contact those places and ask for an alternative -the less people participate the quieter the discussions the more likely they are to at least try to switch over if they start feeling some pressure.
I agree that it needs to happen but contacting these places and asking them for an alternative is a lot like contacting a deep sea tube worm and asking it to learn brain surgery.
They’re probably capable of moving from one social platform to another, But it’s a lot of work and they’re destroying their network every time so they’re highly resistant.
If Apple wasn’t such a pain in the ass about notification services We could probably crowdsource NTFY and let everyone use it for schools non-profits and such
The best we could expect us for them to move to Blue sky. Health in my case half of them just recently moved off Twitter.
Yeah, I dumped facebook right after the election but unfortunately most of my friends and family are only on WhatsApp.
WhatsApp is a serious problem. There are quite a number of countries that are running a lot of their business through it.
This man has a bunker and everything. He’s scared shitless and he is ready to hide. Their assets need to be seized and accounts drained
His bunker on a Hawaiian Island. Dude really wants to be far away from everything when shit pops off.
What I’m hearing is that after we overthrow the government and Destroy capitalism we have to dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial
dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial
Just weld the door closed. Problem solved.
I’ve never been to Hawaii, but I’ll show up for that 😎
We are already living in a country being run by Elon Musk.
corporation*
The Network State is just feudalism updated to accommodate a new set of vile and toxic elitist shitheads.
Delete your facebook products.
If you know someone who works at facebook, try to convince them to leave.
If you see someone who’s in a leadership position at Facebook bleeding out, perhaps after a car accident because their brakes were sabotaged, let them die.
i wish. if i delete whatsapp ill be completely isolated, even from some businesses. sadly they cornered the entire market in my country including sms.
it would unironically take a big outage for everyone to move though. heres hoping an industrious hacker is willing to paint that kind of target on their own back.
i’ve been trying to get people to switch platforms for years. it’s not easy. if only people cared more about things than they want convenience…
Oh, this is the 15-minute cities they’re scared of.
Fucking insane how these people twist a good idea in to something evil, then support the evil version of that idea.
I think they do that on purpose. These powerful players not the idiots voting for them.
Delay, Deny, [redacted]
fuck facebook
Welcome to Facebook the capital of Meta country, jokes aside, they are banning because it’s a long term thing and they are scared of it derailing if too many people know.
Zuckerberg, go play with your BBS and let us worry about what needs to be discussed in this myopic, dystopic world.
Thats a weird way of saying fascism
Just another reason to abandon social networks owned by big tech companies and moving to decentralized open source social networks.