Sauerkraut ( @Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de ) English24•2 days agoReddit is shadow banning people like crazy as well. This is scary
melpomenesclevage ( @melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English2•2 days agowhat’s the difference between government censorship, and corporate censorship by organs closely tied to the government, and corporate censorship by organs closely tied to the government where certain phrases are randomly declared punishable by death?
undone ( @undone@lemm.ee ) English1•2 days agoWhat does shadow banning typically look like? I would assume you don’t get a notification? How do you find out?
dumblederp ( @dumblederp@aussie.zone ) English2•1 day agoLogout and browse your user profile page via old.Reddit it’ll say banned or suspended.
undone ( @undone@lemm.ee ) English2•1 day agoAh. That’s even easier. Good to know how to quickly check.
Crazazy [hey hi! :D] ( @Crazazy@feddit.nl ) English2•2 days agoHow do you find out?
I assume looking at reddit through an incognito window and seeing none of your posts appearing
undone ( @undone@lemm.ee ) English1•1 day agoHmm. Will try it some time. Sometimes it feels like being shadow-banned… but TBH it’s more likely just not so active communities / mediocre contribution on my part.
melpomenesclevage ( @melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English2•2 days agoyou do a thing, but there are no interactions. maybe in only certain contexts. so to you it appears as if you’re engaging, but your posts and sometimes reactions/votes don’t show up except to you.
undone ( @undone@lemm.ee ) English2•1 day agohaha. seeing as I don’t usually get much interaction I would never notice.
switched to lemmy as main platform on my phone a few days ago anyway. when boost for reddit finally was blocked completely. will try to be more active here and hope many other people do the same… there is a good chance with all that’s going on.
melpomenesclevage ( @melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English2•1 day agoyeah I probably wouldn’t notice if everyone else in town was replaced by robots tomorrow until I went and tried to feed randos and found they didn’t eat anymore.
Billybob22 ( @Billybob22@feddit.uk ) English17•2 days agoShut down and delete your data on your US tech accounts. Their business’s are worthless without our accounts.
It’s a process, start today! With the easy ones and work towards the hard ones.
Daelsky ( @Daelsky@lemmy.ca ) English3•2 days agoAgreed.
melsaskca ( @melsaskca@lemmy.ca ) English3•2 days agoZuckerberg, go play with your BBS and let us worry about what needs to be discussed in this myopic, dystopic world.
rumba ( @rumba@lemmy.zip ) English15•2 days agoEveryone needs to GTFO facebook. We can hardly do it because every other HOA and School PTA is there, but we get stop using messenger and stop having personal discussions over there.
Jimius ( @Jimius@lemmy.ml ) English12•2 days agoDon’t accept it when organizations require you to sign up and hand over personal information to private and commercial third parties. Requiring Facebook is an active attempt at curbing participation.
rumba ( @rumba@lemmy.zip ) English1•2 days agoOh they can’t force you. You can always rely on the pta just to send you papers home and backpacks and you don’t really need to talk to your neighbors or have them report problems in a public forum
There’s enough value for these places that I still go back to Facebook for it, they’re not forcing me. They just make it worth it.
Pax ( @Pax@lemmy.ca ) English5•2 days agoContact those places and ask for an alternative -the less people participate the quieter the discussions the more likely they are to at least try to switch over if they start feeling some pressure.
rumba ( @rumba@lemmy.zip ) English2•2 days agoI agree that it needs to happen but contacting these places and asking them for an alternative is a lot like contacting a deep sea tube worm and asking it to learn brain surgery.
They’re probably capable of moving from one social platform to another, But it’s a lot of work and they’re destroying their network every time so they’re highly resistant.
If Apple wasn’t such a pain in the ass about notification services We could probably crowdsource NTFY and let everyone use it for schools non-profits and such
The best we could expect us for them to move to Blue sky. Health in my case half of them just recently moved off Twitter.
Zzyzx ( @Zzyzx@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English2•2 days agoYeah, I dumped facebook right after the election but unfortunately most of my friends and family are only on WhatsApp.
rumba ( @rumba@lemmy.zip ) English3•2 days agoWhatsApp is a serious problem. There are quite a number of countries that are running a lot of their business through it.
magnetosphere ( @magnetosphere@fedia.io ) 72•3 days agoStreisand effect: I had never heard of the “network state” until now. Uh, thanks for being such an asshole, Zuck!
Notyou ( @Notyou@sopuli.xyz ) English35•3 days agoI just found out like a week ago. Look up techno feudalism. Apparently these guys have been talking about it for a long time.
Mongostein ( @Mongostein@lemmy.ca ) English12•3 days agoOh, this is the 15-minute cities they’re scared of.
Fucking insane how these people twist a good idea in to something evil, then support the evil version of that idea.
reiterationstation ( @reiterationstation@lemm.ee ) English2•2 days agoI think they do that on purpose. These powerful players not the idiots voting for them.
jsomae ( @jsomae@lemmy.ml ) English6•2 days agofuck facebook
HappinessPill ( @HappinessPill@lemmy.ml ) English6•2 days agoWelcome to Facebook the capital of Meta country, jokes aside, they are banning because it’s a long term thing and they are scared of it derailing if too many people know.
LoveSausage ( @LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de ) English3•2 days agoThats a weird way of saying fascism
segabased ( @segabased@lemmy.zip ) English41•3 days agoThis man has a bunker and everything. He’s scared shitless and he is ready to hide. Their assets need to be seized and accounts drained
SmokeytheBeard1 ( @SmokeytheBeard1@lemm.ee ) English16•3 days agoHis bunker on a Hawaiian Island. Dude really wants to be far away from everything when shit pops off.
Fluffy Kitty Cat ( @fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ) English14•3 days agoWhat I’m hearing is that after we overthrow the government and Destroy capitalism we have to dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial
imvii ( @imvii@lemmy.ca ) English12•3 days agodig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial
Just weld the door closed. Problem solved.
SmokeytheBeard1 ( @SmokeytheBeard1@lemm.ee ) English6•3 days agoI’ve never been to Hawaii, but I’ll show up for that 😎
MyOpinion ( @MyOpinion@lemm.ee ) English37•4 days agoWe are already living in a country being run by Elon Musk.
Muffi ( @Muffi@programming.dev ) English4•3 days agocorporation*
ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed ( @IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English11•3 days agoDelay, Deny, [redacted]
WatDabney ( @WatDabney@fedia.io ) 23•3 days agoThe Network State is just feudalism updated to accommodate a new set of vile and toxic elitist shitheads.
jjjalljs ( @jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ) English22•3 days agoDelete your facebook products.
If you know someone who works at facebook, try to convince them to leave.
If you see someone who’s in a leadership position at Facebook bleeding out, perhaps after a car accident because their brakes were sabotaged, let them die.
umbrella ( @umbrella@lemmy.ml ) English6•3 days agoi wish. if i delete whatsapp ill be completely isolated, even from some businesses. sadly they cornered the entire market in my country including sms.
it would unironically take a big outage for everyone to move though. heres hoping an industrious hacker is willing to paint that kind of target on their own back.
jjjalljs ( @jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ) English7•3 days agoi’ve been trying to get people to switch platforms for years. it’s not easy. if only people cared more about things than they want convenience…
beeng ( @beeng@discuss.tchncs.de ) English3•3 days agoFucking shit article.
Different network state to Bilajis? Since that was always opt in afaik.
From the website from the book.
A network state is a highly aligned online community with a capacity for collective action that crowdfunds territory around the world and eventually gains diplomatic recognition from pre-existing states.
Seems like zuck trying to take the Name again like he came up with it, eg Meta.
Networks are opt in, just like meta product’s.
Jimius ( @Jimius@lemmy.ml ) English1•2 days agoYears ago I thought Balaji was a genius. But now he’s just a rich guy who thinks just because he’s smart and has a a crowd he can weigh in on everything.
The idea that a “network state” where an on-line community using NFTs as passports to sleep on each other’s couch would somehow be recognized by actual countries makes for a cool sci-fi plot (I’d read that!). But it has no place in reality.
barsoap ( @barsoap@lemm.ee ) English2•2 days agoNeal Stephenson, “The Diamond Age”. Probably the post-cyberpunk novel. Within the setting the existence and status of phyles is certainly well-grounded, actually quite analogous to bog-standard cyberpunk – instead of corporations supplanting nation states because they do manage to be more powerful there’s a mixture of weak nation states and value/ideology-based tribes which constitute full societies not mere corporations, and have different power specialisations. If you have enough economical power, engineering prowess, hacking prowess, reasoning is that you can not just go toe to toe with nation states you can force concessions.
Also side note there’s entities which are not nation states which are (almost) universally recognised as sovereign by proper states: The Holy See, and the Sovereign Military Order of Malta. The latter is more of a protocol quirk, the Holy See actually works actively for that status by being a diplomatic powerhouse without any real-world power to back it up, opens quite a couple of diplomatic doors which would otherwise be closed. They use it to mediate and get stuff like human cloning banned on the UN level, aware that they can’t actually push Catholic doctrine (most of the world wouldn’t care), but need to convince.
That all said though yes the fever dreams of cryptobros have no place in reality. They’re not CryptNet, they just like to larp as it.
Jimius ( @Jimius@lemmy.ml ) English1•2 days agoNever read Diamond Age, I’ll put it on my list. Thanks for the reply and recommendation.
beeng ( @beeng@discuss.tchncs.de ) English1•2 days agoSo the rest of the predictive nature of cyberpunk is OK but the network state won’t happen? 😃
Jimius ( @Jimius@lemmy.ml ) English1•2 days agoYes