I’m looking into Firefox alternatives as I wanna see what’s available. Being Norwegian, Vivaldi seems like a good choice to replace Firefox on desktop and Safari on iOS. Tried it for a night and it works pretty good. I do however have reservations about it being based on Chromium.
How much power does Google actually have over Vivaldi? And would it actually matter for my quest for degoogling myself?
In case anyone’s wondering. I’m also looking into LibreWolf.
Edit: Rewrote the start as people got too hung up on Firefox.
I’ve been using LibreWolf and have been very happy with it.
I installed the essential Privacy Badger and uBlock Origin and see both doing their jobs on top of the protection LibreWolf offers.
Strongly second this.
There’s been suspicions for a while that you can’t actually unGoogle Chromium no matter how hard you try.
I really enjoy Vivaldi but I came to the conclusion that the only thing that really matters to me is vertical tabs.
LibreWolf is my daily driver now.
I’m coming to the conclusion that I should just try LibreWolf and see how I like that compared to Firefox.
I can definitely recommend Librewolf over Vivaldi if you don’t need crazy levels of customization. To me it was just much more than what I needed so I went with Librewolf which is also obviously a lot lighter. Vivaldi being based on Chromium is pretty much the only criticizable thing about the project. Henry from Techlore interviewed their CEO not long ago, look it up, it was quite interesting.
Also, I am planning on moving to Norway in the next two to three years, would you mind if I messaged you privately with a couple questions?
No problem, fire away!
I also recommend Vivaldi.
Ikke skift til en chromium-basert nettleser!
Har du noe dypere grunnlag eller noe mer informasjon å komme med å jeg selv kan ta den avgjørelsen?
Whats bad about them? Does it affect Firefox forks like Eaterfox or Midori as well? I’m having good first experience with Midori.
I dunno how it affects forks, but considering Google’s TOS doesn’t seem to affect other Chromium projects that much. I doubt it’s a big of a deal for FF forks.
Hell, I’m 99% sure I’m overreacting about Mozilla’s working to begin with. It just made me want to explore alternatives.
Here’s the quote I’m talking about(it has since been changed)
When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.
Whaaaat? That sounds extremely broad. I need to learn more about it.
Isn’t the narrowing part the not bold bit, that specifically says it’s about your use of Firefox? As in you save bookmarks which are synced via Firefox servers. It needs to be a worldwide license in order to allow them to store that data on their CDN. It needs to be royalty-free because that it saying you can’t ask Firefox for money because they have your data. Non-exclusive is them saying they aren’t claiming you can’t also give the right to others.
I would be less concerned about the part in bold and much more concerned about what they are allowed to do with that data.
That’s exactly what I thought and granted so did a lot of people too.
Not the end of the world, but made me want to look at alternatives at least.
I’ve been using Orion on iOS and been happy with it so far
Looked i to that one too. Ended up just using Safari.
Not perfect, but at least it’s not a third party on top of Apple.
I originally switched to Ecosia, loved it. Very identical to Chrome because, well, it’s chromium based. Still a food option, but I wanted to make a full swap.
So I reluctantly tried Vivaldi last week (with Ecosia as a search engine), because that’s 2 major changes to a browser this year, meaning migrating all data and setting stuff up, which is more bothersome than I have patience for under normal circumstances.
Yet, I must say I’m positively surprised by it. Loving Vivaldi so far, and I’m not even using all it has to offer.
Orion.
